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graham4anything

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44. yeah, and John will be sitting in a corner on 1/17/17 applauding President Hillary Clinton 45.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 05:16 AM
Jan 2013

besides everything else, it will be Madame President in 2017.

Might be Madame President Elizabeth Warren if not Madame President Hillary45
It might be someone else.
But it will be Madame President 2017.

and it will be a Democratic Madame President 2017

btw, will John Kerry win a noble peace prize like President Carter, President Obama, President not Seated Gore and soon to be given one, Madame President Hillary Clinton45 have/will?

I doubt it.

But I do recall the Kerry groupies in 100s of other posts, said SOS was the dream job John Kerry always wanted(not senator, not president). Therefore if even they believe that, it is obvious that he would not want to be President. Even his fans said it many times before.

btw, checked five times before posting if this thread were in the Kerry group section or the general.


Again, how was that John Edwards pick doing? Single worst VP choice ever.
Sarah was just unqualified.
Edwards was a fraud.

And btw, don't be too hard on Madame President Hillary Clinton45.
I expect lobbying from the Kerry group for Presidential nominee to pick Kerry as VP in 2016.
like the Edwards groupies lobbied to pick Edwards and Kerry listened.

How foolish it was. Kerry should have picked Bob Graham (but then so should have Gore, and Gore should have allowed Bill Clinton to campaign for him, would have won 5 other states and rendered Florida and NH obsolete).

In retrospect 2008 and 2012 proved all that was wrong with 2000 and 2004, and how bad both the 2000 and 2004 campaigns were run.
In retrospect, 2008 showed both democratic candidates would have destroyed McCain, both running the same type campaign.
But in 2000 and 2004, both times the candidates ran a simply horrible campaign.

Retrospect showed it.
And the funny thing is, Mitt did the Kerry and the Dukakis himself in 2012.
Not that it would have made a difference in the outcome, but Mitt himself was Dukakissed and Kerried.

Matters little if Gore and Kerry are great guys and nice people and good people.

What matters is winning and being seated.
Only thing that matters.

and it don't matter how one is seated, but getting seated.

Because 1960 showed what happens in regards to theft/dirty politics, etc.
When played on even levels, the democratic candidate won.
It was shit to be Richard Nixon and sweat on TV, before candidates knew that sweating was a bad thing,especially when some are prone to sweat.
Also showed that Chicago wins elections and does again and again.

Even in 1968, Bobby's last words were "Now it's onto Chicago, and let's win there".
Damn shame that Bobby never got to Chicago. And that he didn't wait to 1972 and 1976,when it would have been all his.Damn shame the voters tossed LBJ into the river, as LBJ would have beaten Nixon in a down and dirty fight, but LBJ was a winner, and he would have won the down and dirty fight,but leave it to the protesters to screw that up.

Chicago wins.
JFK in 1960
LBJ in 1964
Obama in 2008 and 2012
Hillary in 2016 and 2020
Michelle in 2024 and 2028
Chicago wins.

btw, Chicago is a great word, and my kinda town.
The windy city that knows which way the wind blows.
You gotta be seated and winning it, to be in it.
I don't let the word Chicago get hijacked as a bad word, because Chicago is a great word.

imho

just remember, John Kerry is going to need Madame President Hillary Clinton to either keep him in his job in 2017 as SOS, or as VP. So he and his fans should not be very harsh on her.
(IMHO of course).

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Is this the Kerry 2016 thread? [View all] jberryhill Jan 2013 OP
If we really want a Do-over, I'll take Al Gore. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #1
Without Mr Lieberman Ian Iam Jan 2013 #2
Yeah Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #4
Sadly, Al Gore is damaged goods. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #14
Sigh jberryhill Jan 2013 #23
Well there's a reason Newt came nowhere close to winning the Republican nomination. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #25
He was betrayed by disloyal staff jberryhill Jan 2013 #28
If a Muslin can be President, why not Newt Gingham? pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #31
because he was a jerk johnstamosjr1966rr Jan 2013 #50
Gahhh. Would it be possible to run someone who didn't lose TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #3
Reagan ran in '68 and '76 jberryhill Jan 2013 #6
Is that REALLY the example you want to use? TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #10
Persistence is a virtue jberryhill Jan 2013 #12
LOL. I'm a quitter, myself. That's why persistent people irk me. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #13
If we have to reach back to 2004 for a candidate, Gore1FL Jan 2013 #5
Kerry would not be "reaching back" jberryhill Jan 2013 #8
And really theKed Jan 2013 #57
Sec of State can't campaign. Iggo Jan 2013 #7
Very simple jberryhill Jan 2013 #11
. ProSense Jan 2013 #16
Laugh all you want... jberryhill Jan 2013 #18
Well, that's a head-exploding premise. ProSense Jan 2013 #20
Shhh... jberryhill Jan 2013 #22
. Iggo Jan 2013 #71
Only one... YvonneCa Jan 2013 #17
If he came close to that, the WORLD would lobby for the US keeping him SOS karynnj Jan 2013 #58
if Hillary becomes President he could stay on as SOS JI7 Jan 2013 #9
I was sort of hoping ProSense Jan 2013 #15
Look, if we can plan a balance budget by 2038... jberryhill Jan 2013 #19
Here is why Hillary and Kerry candidacies are not what we should be talking about. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #39
No. This is another Hillary thread Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #21
Really In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #56
yes musicwarehouse Jan 2013 #24
Well your post makes no sense to me... Agschmid Jan 2013 #26
At least six of them are jberryhill Jan 2013 #30
mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them uppityperson Jan 2013 #36
No, no way BainsBane Jan 2013 #27
Note the ages of the presidents. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #38
Hillary Clinton is far from ordinary BainsBane Jan 2013 #40
You might want to review 2008 karynnj Jan 2013 #60
You keep looking backward. This is 2016 we are talking about and Clinton should have been allowed graham4anything Jan 2013 #64
True. Hillary is not ordinary, but I genuinely hope we can find someone younger JDPriestly Jan 2013 #72
Clinton was a loser too - she got less far than Kerry, who had Ohio not been rigged would have karynnj Jan 2013 #59
No BainsBane Jan 2013 #62
YOU compared Clinton to Kerry --- that is why I did karynnj Jan 2013 #65
how did I bash Kerry? BainsBane Jan 2013 #67
I perceived Kerry's answers to be more thoughtful and more visionary karynnj Jan 2013 #70
Kerry speaks effectively to the choir loyalsister Jan 2013 #29
Four years is a long donco Jan 2013 #32
She is the same age as Hillary45,without the resume. Has the senate even been in session yet? graham4anything Jan 2013 #42
Kerry did vote on both votes yesterday karynnj Jan 2013 #61
To do one specific thing her fans want her to do. She is not going to be like say graham4anything Jan 2013 #63
We need new blood for 2016 and preferably a woman ManOz Jan 2013 #33
Vietnam, Iran/Contra. 20+ years in the Senate. Kerry is more than qualified. think Jan 2013 #34
I saw the bit with him and the protestor earlier today blogslut Jan 2013 #35
John Kerry is 69. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #37
Senator Feinstein is 79. ucrdem Jan 2013 #78
I'm up there too and relatively healthy. Not 72 yet, but getting there. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #79
Let's see, who does that leave, lol. ucrdem Jan 2013 #80
Where is the sarcasm smilie? This is the silliest idea I have ever heard of.I would NOT vote for him graham4anything Jan 2013 #41
Hillary and Obama are Kerry fans JI7 Jan 2013 #43
yeah, and John will be sitting in a corner on 1/17/17 applauding President Hillary Clinton 45. graham4anything Jan 2013 #44
considering Hillary is a Kerry fan i wouldn't worry about much JI7 Jan 2013 #46
Be nice to Hillary45, you need her to keep JKerry on as SOS to beat McNamara's SOS longevity record. graham4anything Jan 2013 #48
i'm pretty sure Hillary doesn't make decisions based on is being said on DU JI7 Jan 2013 #52
you bring up a sore topic with me here graham4anything Jan 2013 #54
He'll need 11 years ISUGRADIA Jan 2013 #81
About the Edwards-Cheney VP Debate: ucrdem Jan 2013 #45
Are you John Edwards' last fan? LOL graham4anything Jan 2013 #47
Well, if we're going make VP debates the metric ucrdem Jan 2013 #49
for vp. Hillary45/Biden. History set. Then in 2020, Hillary45/Michelle46 graham4anything Jan 2013 #53
Oh great, we're going to have DYNASTIES? Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #69
Did you say that about FDR? Gore? JFK? Bobby? John Quincy Adams? Jerry Brown? graham4anything Jan 2013 #77
it's pretty clear that Edwards sucked in the debates JI7 Jan 2013 #51
I wasn't originally a big Edwards partisan ucrdem Jan 2013 #55
maybe bigtree Jan 2013 #66
Please no Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #68
Obama was not an establishment dem and he worked out pretty darn good Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #73
He voted FOR the Iraq "war" RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #74
Out of all of the potential and viable Democratic Party presidential candidates for 2016..... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #75
Kerry is a great man, but he is not running in 2016. End of story. nt madinmaryland Jan 2013 #76
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