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In reply to the discussion: Is this the Kerry 2016 thread? [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)besides everything else, it will be Madame President in 2017.
Might be Madame President Elizabeth Warren if not Madame President Hillary45
It might be someone else.
But it will be Madame President 2017.
and it will be a Democratic Madame President 2017
btw, will John Kerry win a noble peace prize like President Carter, President Obama, President not Seated Gore and soon to be given one, Madame President Hillary Clinton45 have/will?
I doubt it.
But I do recall the Kerry groupies in 100s of other posts, said SOS was the dream job John Kerry always wanted(not senator, not president). Therefore if even they believe that, it is obvious that he would not want to be President. Even his fans said it many times before.
btw, checked five times before posting if this thread were in the Kerry group section or the general.
Again, how was that John Edwards pick doing? Single worst VP choice ever.
Sarah was just unqualified.
Edwards was a fraud.
And btw, don't be too hard on Madame President Hillary Clinton45.
I expect lobbying from the Kerry group for Presidential nominee to pick Kerry as VP in 2016.
like the Edwards groupies lobbied to pick Edwards and Kerry listened.
How foolish it was. Kerry should have picked Bob Graham (but then so should have Gore, and Gore should have allowed Bill Clinton to campaign for him, would have won 5 other states and rendered Florida and NH obsolete).
In retrospect 2008 and 2012 proved all that was wrong with 2000 and 2004, and how bad both the 2000 and 2004 campaigns were run.
In retrospect, 2008 showed both democratic candidates would have destroyed McCain, both running the same type campaign.
But in 2000 and 2004, both times the candidates ran a simply horrible campaign.
Retrospect showed it.
And the funny thing is, Mitt did the Kerry and the Dukakis himself in 2012.
Not that it would have made a difference in the outcome, but Mitt himself was Dukakissed and Kerried.
Matters little if Gore and Kerry are great guys and nice people and good people.
What matters is winning and being seated.
Only thing that matters.
and it don't matter how one is seated, but getting seated.
Because 1960 showed what happens in regards to theft/dirty politics, etc.
When played on even levels, the democratic candidate won.
It was shit to be Richard Nixon and sweat on TV, before candidates knew that sweating was a bad thing,especially when some are prone to sweat.
Also showed that Chicago wins elections and does again and again.
Even in 1968, Bobby's last words were "Now it's onto Chicago, and let's win there".
Damn shame that Bobby never got to Chicago. And that he didn't wait to 1972 and 1976,when it would have been all his.Damn shame the voters tossed LBJ into the river, as LBJ would have beaten Nixon in a down and dirty fight, but LBJ was a winner, and he would have won the down and dirty fight,but leave it to the protesters to screw that up.
Chicago wins.
JFK in 1960
LBJ in 1964
Obama in 2008 and 2012
Hillary in 2016 and 2020
Michelle in 2024 and 2028
Chicago wins.
btw, Chicago is a great word, and my kinda town.
The windy city that knows which way the wind blows.
You gotta be seated and winning it, to be in it.
I don't let the word Chicago get hijacked as a bad word, because Chicago is a great word.
imho
just remember, John Kerry is going to need Madame President Hillary Clinton to either keep him in his job in 2017 as SOS, or as VP. So he and his fans should not be very harsh on her.
(IMHO of course).