Is this the Kerry 2016 thread?

[graham4anything]

53. for vp. Hillary45/Biden. History set. Then in 2020, Hillary45/Michelle46

your logic makes no sense

cheney wasn't president, nor did he run
leiberman did not do well running for President

Mondale stunk running for President
HHH stunk running for President
(again 2 great people that ran terrible campaigns and were weak Presidential candidates, same as the others not seated).
Why the Dems sold LBJ down the river in 1968 I still don't know.
(in the history books, there is Lincoln at #1, FDR at #2, LBJ at #3, President Obama at #4, President Carter #5).
Where will Hillary45 fit in? History will need to see how far up she will be ranked.

and to be a great president, a good president, or even a bad president, one has to not only win it, they have to be seated.
right now just 44 numbers, 43 men(one is counted twice=44).

After 2016, we shall have 45 numbers, 43 men(one counted twice=44) and one woman.

in fact, can't recall the last VP to become President except for the defacto President from 1980 to 1988, and that was Bush41.

And it took a Clinton to defeat a Bush in 1992.
And it will take another Clinton to defeat Jeb Bush in 2016.

imho. but one that will happen this way.