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In reply to the discussion: Why do Democrats do so poorly with rural voters? [View all]tama
(9,137 posts)There was discussion panel in the big city about ecological agriculture. I was living in rural permaculture ecovillage at the time, and interested in the subject.
As it was in the city, there were mostly what we here in Finland call "citygreens" present, the vegan types. And it was all very top down, condescending, lot of talk about meat eating "stupid redneck hilly billies". Hippies learn very fast that if a rural hippie community don't have respectful and good relations with the "native" rural people, it does not survive long. And they learn where food comes from.
So I blew my fuse and told the politico city green that a rural peasant does not need a vegan citygreen to boss him and call him bad names, he can survive without citygreens, but a vegan citygreen consumer needs peasants to grow food for him, can't survive without.
And that, dear friends, is the heart of the story. The urban-rural divide goes deep and the most basic fact of the divide is hierarchy of dependencies. Urban people depend from rural people, but rural people can and do survive without urban people. Sure urban people make lots of nice things that also rural people enjoy, but that does not change the primary hierarchy of dependency.
And let's face it, folks, people who can't manage by their own and are dependent from others can get quite bossy, out of fear and insecurity and what not. Urban kings and priests and soldiers "taxing" rural peasants is the first and original class divide. And that class divide and root of injustice at the heart of civilization remains unsolved.
So why don't rural people trust and vote for the party perceived as "big government"? Because peasants have been robbed and fucked by City Masters for millennia, and the mistrust is towards City Masters and Big Government is in their blood.
The modern fossil fuel driven system is much more complex, and also agriculture has been largely mechanized and industrialized, there are complexes and complexities of all kinds. But if urban people don't realize the root of the problem and the class divide and one way dependency, and see the issue from the other point of view, we cannot start finding progressive solutions to this most basic problem and root of so much injustice and suffering.