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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
17. "and it needs to come from somewhere."
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jan 2013

The "change" right now is coming from the corporate world which does not have the student in mind as much they are after profit. Education is a field which has previously been mainly off limits to them.

Now that field is opened up widely by Democratic politicians who are enforcing the policies of George Bush.

You say it might not be good change, but any change is needed?

Your quote:

"Maybe the 'reformers' aren't doing good things to the education system, but the system needs change (as all systems do over time); and it needs to come from somewhere. There should be some component of local control, but the core curriculum needs to be based on a national standard and teachers need to be evaluated on their ability to teach that core material. The only way to evaluate teacher performance; is to evaluate the students that they are supposed to be teaching. "

Disagree on all counts. It is the worst way to evaluate teachers, as the tests are made by private companies and not based on what is taught in the classroom.

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Thanks from one not yet retired. rateyes Jan 2013 #1
Those still teaching need to take care. madfloridian Jan 2013 #3
k&r Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #2
What is CA's "reform" movement like Recursion Jan 2013 #4
Yes, Parent Trigger laws got voted in here. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #5
Community Colleges xxqqqzme Jan 2013 #7
No California republicans Bigbluebrush Jan 2013 #6
K&R JDPriestly Jan 2013 #8
We need to get.... ReRe Jan 2013 #9
Amen to that. madfloridian Jan 2013 #20
Indeed, ReRe Oilwellian Jan 2013 #34
as jerry brown was an early proponent of charters as mayor of oakland, not sure what this HiPointDem Jan 2013 #10
Tried it and it didn't work, he was checking it out. Turns out charters don't do as well as regular diane in sf Jan 2013 #12
when did he have this revelation? because he went to a charter school rally in 2012. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #13
You might want to read Joy Resmovits at Huffpost. Interesting. madfloridian Jan 2013 #22
K&R Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #11
I'm all for standing up for the teachers... Blanks Jan 2013 #14
"and it needs to come from somewhere." madfloridian Jan 2013 #17
Nobody likes to have oversight. Blanks Jan 2013 #24
The words you use are key words from the "reformers". madfloridian Jan 2013 #25
Whatever. Blanks Jan 2013 #28
The public schools DO have oversight. Teachers ARE evaluated constantly, have always been. madfloridian Jan 2013 #29
I appreciate your response. Blanks Jan 2013 #30
What the students show on a test is only a small portion of what learning is about. madfloridian Jan 2013 #31
You've hit the nail on the head. Blanks Jan 2013 #32
When I get to a real computer (I'm on a Nook right now), tblue37 Jan 2013 #15
Kudos to Governor Brown. LWolf Jan 2013 #16
It's finally happening madfloridian liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #18
It really matters that the parents are speaking out now. madfloridian Jan 2013 #27
Good for him... ljm2002 Jan 2013 #19
wow--too bad he's too old to run for president again. Maybe he should be the new Sec of Ed yurbud Jan 2013 #21
"a stark, single number to encapsulate the precise achievement level of every child." madfloridian Jan 2013 #23
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! Squinch Jan 2013 #26
Oh my Oilwellian Jan 2013 #33
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