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BainsBane

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67. how did I bash Kerry?

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:25 PM

Jan 2013

Stating the reality of Dem Party politics is not bashing. The Democratic party stands in stark contrast to the GOP, who has nominated past general election losers.

I don't dispute Kerry has made many important contributions to the nation, and he will make many more. But he speaks differently from Clinton. He is longer winded and slower in his delivery. You focused on the fact the Secretary became angry. That isn't what I'm talking about. I perceive her to be smarter and more competent, not because Kerry is not intelligent and competent, but because Clinton is extraordinarily skilled. And I say this as someone who opposed her nomination in 2008. I initially favored Biden but ended up caucusing for Obama. I believe Clinton has earned her due, and I think that swipe about her looking old and tired was nasty and sexist, even if you drew from Bill Clinton to make it.

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Is this the Kerry 2016 thread? [View all] jberryhill Jan 2013 OP

If we really want a Do-over, I'll take Al Gore. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #1

Without Mr Lieberman Ian Iam Jan 2013 #2

Yeah Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #4

Sadly, Al Gore is damaged goods. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #14

Sigh jberryhill Jan 2013 #23

Well there's a reason Newt came nowhere close to winning the Republican nomination. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #25

He was betrayed by disloyal staff jberryhill Jan 2013 #28

If a Muslin can be President, why not Newt Gingham? pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #31

because he was a jerk johnstamosjr1966rr Jan 2013 #50

Gahhh. Would it be possible to run someone who didn't lose TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #3

Reagan ran in '68 and '76 jberryhill Jan 2013 #6

Is that REALLY the example you want to use? TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #10

Persistence is a virtue jberryhill Jan 2013 #12

LOL. I'm a quitter, myself. That's why persistent people irk me. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #13

If we have to reach back to 2004 for a candidate, Gore1FL Jan 2013 #5

Kerry would not be "reaching back" jberryhill Jan 2013 #8

And really theKed Jan 2013 #57

Sec of State can't campaign. Iggo Jan 2013 #7

Very simple jberryhill Jan 2013 #11

. ProSense Jan 2013 #16

Laugh all you want... jberryhill Jan 2013 #18

Well, that's a head-exploding premise. ProSense Jan 2013 #20

Shhh... jberryhill Jan 2013 #22

. Iggo Jan 2013 #71

Only one... YvonneCa Jan 2013 #17

If he came close to that, the WORLD would lobby for the US keeping him SOS karynnj Jan 2013 #58

if Hillary becomes President he could stay on as SOS JI7 Jan 2013 #9

I was sort of hoping ProSense Jan 2013 #15

Look, if we can plan a balance budget by 2038... jberryhill Jan 2013 #19

Here is why Hillary and Kerry candidacies are not what we should be talking about. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #39

No. This is another Hillary thread Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #21

Really In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #56

yes musicwarehouse Jan 2013 #24

Well your post makes no sense to me... Agschmid Jan 2013 #26

At least six of them are jberryhill Jan 2013 #30

mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them uppityperson Jan 2013 #36

No, no way BainsBane Jan 2013 #27

Note the ages of the presidents. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #38

Hillary Clinton is far from ordinary BainsBane Jan 2013 #40

You might want to review 2008 karynnj Jan 2013 #60

You keep looking backward. This is 2016 we are talking about and Clinton should have been allowed graham4anything Jan 2013 #64

True. Hillary is not ordinary, but I genuinely hope we can find someone younger JDPriestly Jan 2013 #72

Clinton was a loser too - she got less far than Kerry, who had Ohio not been rigged would have karynnj Jan 2013 #59

No BainsBane Jan 2013 #62

YOU compared Clinton to Kerry --- that is why I did karynnj Jan 2013 #65

how did I bash Kerry? BainsBane Jan 2013 #67

I perceived Kerry's answers to be more thoughtful and more visionary karynnj Jan 2013 #70

Kerry speaks effectively to the choir loyalsister Jan 2013 #29

Four years is a long donco Jan 2013 #32

She is the same age as Hillary45,without the resume. Has the senate even been in session yet? graham4anything Jan 2013 #42

Kerry did vote on both votes yesterday karynnj Jan 2013 #61

To do one specific thing her fans want her to do. She is not going to be like say graham4anything Jan 2013 #63

We need new blood for 2016 and preferably a woman ManOz Jan 2013 #33

Vietnam, Iran/Contra. 20+ years in the Senate. Kerry is more than qualified. think Jan 2013 #34

I saw the bit with him and the protestor earlier today blogslut Jan 2013 #35

John Kerry is 69. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #37

Senator Feinstein is 79. ucrdem Jan 2013 #78

I'm up there too and relatively healthy. Not 72 yet, but getting there. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #79

Let's see, who does that leave, lol. ucrdem Jan 2013 #80

Where is the sarcasm smilie? This is the silliest idea I have ever heard of.I would NOT vote for him graham4anything Jan 2013 #41

Hillary and Obama are Kerry fans JI7 Jan 2013 #43

yeah, and John will be sitting in a corner on 1/17/17 applauding President Hillary Clinton 45. graham4anything Jan 2013 #44

considering Hillary is a Kerry fan i wouldn't worry about much JI7 Jan 2013 #46

Be nice to Hillary45, you need her to keep JKerry on as SOS to beat McNamara's SOS longevity record. graham4anything Jan 2013 #48

i'm pretty sure Hillary doesn't make decisions based on is being said on DU JI7 Jan 2013 #52

you bring up a sore topic with me here graham4anything Jan 2013 #54

He'll need 11 years ISUGRADIA Jan 2013 #81

About the Edwards-Cheney VP Debate: ucrdem Jan 2013 #45

Are you John Edwards' last fan? LOL graham4anything Jan 2013 #47

Well, if we're going make VP debates the metric ucrdem Jan 2013 #49

for vp. Hillary45/Biden. History set. Then in 2020, Hillary45/Michelle46 graham4anything Jan 2013 #53

Oh great, we're going to have DYNASTIES? Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #69

Did you say that about FDR? Gore? JFK? Bobby? John Quincy Adams? Jerry Brown? graham4anything Jan 2013 #77

it's pretty clear that Edwards sucked in the debates JI7 Jan 2013 #51

I wasn't originally a big Edwards partisan ucrdem Jan 2013 #55

maybe bigtree Jan 2013 #66

Please no Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #68

Obama was not an establishment dem and he worked out pretty darn good Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #73

He voted FOR the Iraq "war" RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #74

Out of all of the potential and viable Democratic Party presidential candidates for 2016..... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #75

Kerry is a great man, but he is not running in 2016. End of story. nt madinmaryland Jan 2013 #76