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Johnson20

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22. This is a direct quote from
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:42 PM
Jan 2012

the OP's source:

"A two-stage process occurred between the battle of Hadrianople in 378 AD, when the emperor Valens and two-thirds of his army (upwards of 10,000 men) fell in a single afternoon at the hands of an army of Gothic migrants, to the deposition of Romulus Augustulus nearly a century later....

This process created the successor kingdoms. Stage one consisted of immigration onto Roman soil, followed by a second stage of aggressive expansion of the territory under the migrants' control. All of it was carried forward at the point of the sword.

The central Roman state collapsed because the migrants forcibly stripped it of its tax base.

The central Roman state collapsed because the migrants forcibly stripped it of the tax base which it had used to fund its armies, not because of long-term 'organic' transformations."

Did you read the OP's source?

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Massive inequality destroyed Rome. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #1
thanks, Mr. lumberjack navarth Jan 2012 #5
Well, Johnson20 Jan 2012 #15
As more and more wealthy romans were exempted from taxation lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #16
See my remark below.n/t Johnson20 Jan 2012 #23
The sourcing on that site is shaky, to say the least Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #17
This is a direct quote from Johnson20 Jan 2012 #22
Of course I read it Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #24
What are your thoughts on how the 1% have screwed the 99%? cbayer Jan 2012 #2
referring to me? navarth Jan 2012 #7
I guess I am unsure as to what you mean by "rock solid facts". cbayer Jan 2012 #10
um, navarth Jan 2012 #12
For a comical look, send him this piece from the Daily Show cbayer Jan 2012 #14
thanks! eom navarth Jan 2012 #25
I'm not sure what kind of facts would help Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #3
Precisely, thank you. navarth Jan 2012 #8
A good place to start would be the first episode of Moyers & Company cbayer Jan 2012 #4
Duh!! Why didn't I think of this one... navarth Jan 2012 #9
try this link (Mother Jones infographs) limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #6
These are excedllent, thanks navarth Jan 2012 #11
The full text of the US tax code should fit the bill. It is written by the 1% to kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #13
This person should care about inequality. PETRUS Jan 2012 #18
Oh of course he should! Problem is... navarth Jan 2012 #19
Good luck. PETRUS Jan 2012 #20
Ha. Thanks... navarth Jan 2012 #21
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