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14. K&R This is a tremendously important OP,
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

because nothing changes until we, the people, are clear about what is really being perpetrated here.

The corporate kabuki, the script, is familiar and insulting. And, of course, we are already seeing attempts to reassure us that Reid and Democrats might take more meaningful action in the future. As always, the people will be gloriously represented at some time in the future...

The outcome here was easily predicted months ago by anyone who has been paying any attention at all to the game:

So now we are mysteriously falling short of Democratic votes for filibuster reform.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021809132


The truth is that the outcome is predictable every time. The one percent win, and the people lose. And this outcome, for the filibuster, was *especially* predictable, because it sets the stage for another *entire term* of excuses. There would have absolutely been no way to justify the forthcoming betrayals on policy related to economics, war, and the police state, had Democrats truly fought for the power to override Republican obstruction. The stagecraft is brilliant. The propaganda is masterful. But the outcome shows the truth, every single time.

The Democratic Party's Deceitful Game
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/


That's why this OP is so important. Nothing will change until Americans look clearly at how the game is rigged from the start in every single negotiation, how the possible options are artificially narrowed from the start, and how every negotiation moves us rightward. Every. Single. One.

We have a systemic problem of corporate power and money driving policy in both parties, against the will of the people. Democratic and Republican corporatists are colluding against us. Rather than arguing about *whether* it has happened, we need to figure out what we are going to do about it, because change is clearly not coming from those who claim to represent us.

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Obama, Democrats Push to Make Bush Spying Laws Permanent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022084702

The Enemy Expatriation Act - another attack on legitimate protest and dissent like NDAA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022072450

FBI Investigated 'Occupy' As Possible 'Domestic Terrorism' Threat, Internal Documents Show
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022061578

NDAA 2013 - Indefinite detention without trial is back
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014342985

Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain Warrant to Monitor Email
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014348022

Democratic-controlled US Senate approves...new $633 billion war bill
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022060449

Purposely aiming bombs at children: "It kind of opens our aperture."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021931748

The Pentagon's New 30,000-lb MOP Bomb Is Ready To Go
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022200058

Obama Administration To Offer More Than 20 Million Acres in Western Gulf of Mexico for Oil/Drilling
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1896005

Obama's (Corporate) Education Reform Push is Bad Education Policy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x221922

Obama's 'Race To The Top' Drives Nationwide Wave of School Closings, Teacher Firings
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2183810

Trans Pacific Partnership is NAFTA On Steroids
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1914478

NYT slams the government for choosing not to prosecute HSBC top-bankers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021965407

Why is Social Security Under Attack from Obama, when it ADDS NOTHING to the deficit???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022065493

Obama: "Too many of us have been interested in defending programs as written in 1938."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid

Surely every American must realize any cuts hereinafter made to social security, Medicare, or Medicaid...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022191730

Health insurers raising rates by double digits
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014358823

So now we are mysteriously falling short of Democratic votes for filibuster reform.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021809132

Why Harry and the Democrats gave away filibuster reform
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022251878

Nine Democrats signed letter urging quick approval of Keystone XL pipeline
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022250081






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Yep, cause nothing's getting passed now. Gun control? No NightWatcher Jan 2013 #1
yes, because his second term is a week old... that's enough time to get it all done OKNancy Jan 2013 #2
Thanks, OK. elleng Jan 2013 #3
Yup, too soon go judge! appal_jack Jan 2013 #22
Rain on Tim all you want madokie Jan 2013 #36
Yes, he did a great job in engineering a recovery... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #81
Thank you so much, Nancy! AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #30
I saw a post here yesterday, that said something along the lines of... FSogol Jan 2013 #51
What the hell is WRONG with him? Jeez!!! He should have checked off a few blocks on that list MADem Jan 2013 #102
It exposes Feinstein too and her assault weapons bill NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #4
Well said. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #16
*cough* bullshit *cough*...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #5
So, you think this helps the chances for passage of progressive legislation in the 2nd term? leveymg Jan 2013 #10
I think that a post slamming Obama, for a failure of Reid and the other Senate Dems... SidDithers Jan 2013 #11
Right on cue: Try to make it about "slamming Obama." woo me with science Jan 2013 #18
Reminds me of a kindergartener who only eats PBJ with the crusts cut off. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #21
Because it is... SidDithers Jan 2013 #37
I don't mean to be rude, but RIF--that's what the OP is doing. nt MADem Jan 2013 #103
Obama is temporary. He is a current manifestation of a much larger problem. woo me with science Jan 2013 #105
You should really start your own thread to "talk about these things" rather than hide them in the MADem Jan 2013 #106
That's just silly. woo me with science Jan 2013 #107
No, it isn't silly, it is a separate topic, and you know it. Nice try, though. MADem Jan 2013 #108
LOL. Oh, it's been polluted with mockery by the usual corporate defenders, for sure... woo me with science Jan 2013 #110
Yeah, haul out that "corporate defenders" canard, too, when you don't get your way! MADem Jan 2013 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Jan 2013 #109
This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith Jan 2013 #47
Thanks for posting the results... SidDithers Jan 2013 #48
Happy to SD! ohiosmith Jan 2013 #49
Yeah, I wasn't sure if we were allowed Cha Jan 2013 #79
Reid has a good ranking with the NRA, and likely didn't want to screw that up AndyA Jan 2013 #6
Do you need a tissue? MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #7
or alternatively the president intends to fight for these things he firmly believes in arely staircase Jan 2013 #8
The Senate's chickenshit ways do not reflect on Obama. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #9
It's such a simple ruse, and we fall for it EVERY time. Yes, I loved Obama's speech. chimpymustgo Jan 2013 #12
I think you've got it. earthside Jan 2013 #54
Loved the President's speech? ProSense Jan 2013 #13
K&R This is a tremendously important OP, woo me with science Jan 2013 #14
. ProSense Jan 2013 #15
you really think anyone cares about that stupid visual? you really think you're changing any minds? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #27
Do you really think I give a shit? ProSense Jan 2013 #33
likewise. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #69
You're a riot, Hannah... SidDithers Jan 2013 #38
! JTFrog Jan 2013 #42
Apparently Bobbie Jo Jan 2013 #100
Plausible deniability and a culture of mutual back-washing. Bonobo Jan 2013 #19
Great post. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #68
I highly recommend everyone educate themselves about this or nothing will ever change. Bonobo Jan 2013 #20
yep. my senators rotate taking the unpopular votes when necessary. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #26
Maybe they ProSense Jan 2013 #43
Absolutely. I repost sections of it everywhere I can, woo me with science Jan 2013 #65
kr HiPointDem Jan 2013 #25
Yeap, not even 24 hrs and somehow Obama becomes complicate etc uponit7771 Jan 2013 #17
You begin with the assumption filibuster reform is bad Coyotl Jan 2013 #23
Fewer people voting will be the end result of this week stultusporcos Jan 2013 #24
I agree with sid's response...cough cough bullshit cough cough graham4anything Jan 2013 #28
Good post, Graham. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #31
I guess we'll see. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #29
I would hold Harry Reid responsible for what Harry Reid does Scootaloo Jan 2013 #32
It's eleventh dimension chess. ProSense Jan 2013 #34
A strong President doesn't let the Majority Leader do his own thing. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #56
Thank you. The outcome is consistent, because the process is coordinated. woo me with science Jan 2013 #59
+1 None are so blind as those who will not see BlueStreak Jan 2013 #64
I have some questions. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #70
I don't understand any of those questions. Are you aware of the party concept? BlueStreak Jan 2013 #74
Yeap, it's Obama's fault Reid is a wimp...lol uponit7771 Jan 2013 #73
Obama should be driving everything. Yes, it is Obama's fault. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #75
crap bigtree Jan 2013 #35
typical whining ShadesOfBlue Jan 2013 #39
This absolutely serves no purpose. great white snark Jan 2013 #40
It's unadulterated bullshit. nt bluestate10 Jan 2013 #94
Huh? n/t malaise Jan 2013 #41
ooh, cute little conspiracy theory. so Obama knew that cali Jan 2013 #44
I think it's spectacularly dumb to think that the Marr Jan 2013 #58
+100000 woo me with science Jan 2013 #63
Thanks. Marr Jan 2013 #66
You don't believe Reid is an asshole...got cha uponit7771 Jan 2013 #77
I didn't bother listening or reading the inaugaration speech eilen Jan 2013 #45
So it was Obama in the Kitchen with the Candelstick? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #46
Can you explain the logic of the OP? onenote Jan 2013 #50
Why do you think? Marr Jan 2013 #62
Excellent post, woo me with science Jan 2013 #82
DU declares: Obama second term already a failure, and on purpose geek tragedy Jan 2013 #88
He borrowed Stewie's Time Machine, went forward to see what would happen with the filibuster, then MADem Jan 2013 #111
Pathetic. FSogol Jan 2013 #52
well, my expectations for Obama's second term were already low, so this quinnox Jan 2013 #53
Exactly. But the geed news is that BlueStreak Jan 2013 #57
Yes, there's always some plot afoot alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #55
They aren't even hiding it anymore. leeroysphitz Jan 2013 #60
And now the CorpoDems can... 99Forever Jan 2013 #61
agree upi402 Jan 2013 #67
Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #71
Kick for the fucking lulz... SidDithers Jan 2013 #72
Oh you poor thing. Bernie Sanders on the Ed Show: "Reid had 47 votes for Filibuster Reform." Cha Jan 2013 #76
+ 1 n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #80
I hope Bernie outs the Traitor Dems that fucked the process over. MessiahRp Jan 2013 #84
+ 1. obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2013 #95
He's obviously in on it. name not needed Jan 2013 #96
Facts don't mean a damned thing to some people. Some on DU love to attach bluestate10 Jan 2013 #99
Wow! This is exactly the kind of intelligent insight that keeps me at DU. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #78
I know.. best to add the Cha Jan 2013 #83
You do realize President isnt campaigning for reelection anymore.. right? DCBob Jan 2013 #85
Corporate Democrats will always feign naivete and try to make it about Obama. woo me with science Jan 2013 #86
I dont dispute the power of money in politics but.. DCBob Jan 2013 #89
His administration has worked persistently and effectively for corporate interests woo me with science Jan 2013 #90
Many things you list there are not so easily defined to be bad or good. DCBob Jan 2013 #92
Reid didn't have the votes. brush Jan 2013 #87
They never have the votes, by design. woo me with science Jan 2013 #98
Yeah, that is true. If a person is infatuated by conspiracy theories and are convinced that they bluestate10 Jan 2013 #101
See posts 58 and 62. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #104
Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #91
Kick. This is important. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #93
Yep, that is exactly what corporate Democrats do. The game is totally rigged. nt Zorra Jan 2013 #97
Filibuster reform is like playing with fire kudzu22 Jan 2013 #113
A) Reid cannot force people to vote a certain way; he can only try to persuade or pressure NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #114
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