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Bonobo

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20. I highly recommend everyone educate themselves about this or nothing will ever change.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:50 PM
Jan 2013

From that article in Salon:
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In other words, Rockefeller was willing to be a righteous champion for the public option as long as it had no chance of passing (sadly, we just can’t do it, because although it has 50 votes in favor, it doesn’t have 60). But now that Democrats are strongly considering the reconciliation process — which will allow passage with only 50 rather than 60 votes and thus enable them to enact a public option — Rockefeller is suddenly “inclined to oppose it” because he doesn’t “think the timing of it is very good” and it’s “too partisan.” What strange excuses for someone to make with regard to a provision that he claimed, a mere five months ago (when he knew it couldn’t pass), was such a moral and policy imperative that he “would not relent” in ensuring its enactment.

The Obama White House did the same thing. As I wrote back in August, the evidence was clear that while the President was publicly claiming that he supported the public option, the White House, in private, was doing everything possible to ensure its exclusion from the final bill (in order not to alienate the health insurance industry by providing competition for it). Yesterday, Obama — while having his aides signal that they would use reconciliation if necessary — finally unveiled his first-ever health care plan as President, and guess what it did not include? The public option, which he spent all year insisting that he favored oh-so-much but sadly could not get enacted: Gosh, I really want the public option, but we just don’t have 60 votes for it; what can I do?. As I documented in my contribution to the NYT forum yesterday, now that there’s a 50-vote mechanism to pass it, his own proposed bill suddenly excludes it.

This is what the Democratic Party does; it’s who they are. They’re willing to feign support for anything their voters want just as long as there’s no chance that they can pass it. They won control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections by pretending they wanted to compel an end to the Iraq War and Bush surveillance and interrogation abuses because they knew they would not actually do so; and indeed, once they were given the majority, the Democratic-controlled Congress continued to fund the war without conditions, to legalize Bush’s eavesdropping program, and to do nothing to stop Bush’s habeas and interrogation abuses (“Gosh, what can we do? We just don’t have 60 votes).

The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it. One minute, it’s Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity; the next minute, it’s Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and “breaking with their party” to ensure Michael Mukasey’s confirmation as Attorney General; then it’s Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then it’s Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists; and now that they can’t blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they don’t need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.

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Yep, cause nothing's getting passed now. Gun control? No NightWatcher Jan 2013 #1
yes, because his second term is a week old... that's enough time to get it all done OKNancy Jan 2013 #2
Thanks, OK. elleng Jan 2013 #3
Yup, too soon go judge! appal_jack Jan 2013 #22
Rain on Tim all you want madokie Jan 2013 #36
Yes, he did a great job in engineering a recovery... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #81
Thank you so much, Nancy! AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #30
I saw a post here yesterday, that said something along the lines of... FSogol Jan 2013 #51
What the hell is WRONG with him? Jeez!!! He should have checked off a few blocks on that list MADem Jan 2013 #102
It exposes Feinstein too and her assault weapons bill NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #4
Well said. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #16
*cough* bullshit *cough*...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #5
So, you think this helps the chances for passage of progressive legislation in the 2nd term? leveymg Jan 2013 #10
I think that a post slamming Obama, for a failure of Reid and the other Senate Dems... SidDithers Jan 2013 #11
Right on cue: Try to make it about "slamming Obama." woo me with science Jan 2013 #18
Reminds me of a kindergartener who only eats PBJ with the crusts cut off. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #21
Because it is... SidDithers Jan 2013 #37
I don't mean to be rude, but RIF--that's what the OP is doing. nt MADem Jan 2013 #103
Obama is temporary. He is a current manifestation of a much larger problem. woo me with science Jan 2013 #105
You should really start your own thread to "talk about these things" rather than hide them in the MADem Jan 2013 #106
That's just silly. woo me with science Jan 2013 #107
No, it isn't silly, it is a separate topic, and you know it. Nice try, though. MADem Jan 2013 #108
LOL. Oh, it's been polluted with mockery by the usual corporate defenders, for sure... woo me with science Jan 2013 #110
Yeah, haul out that "corporate defenders" canard, too, when you don't get your way! MADem Jan 2013 #112
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This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith Jan 2013 #47
Thanks for posting the results... SidDithers Jan 2013 #48
Happy to SD! ohiosmith Jan 2013 #49
Yeah, I wasn't sure if we were allowed Cha Jan 2013 #79
Reid has a good ranking with the NRA, and likely didn't want to screw that up AndyA Jan 2013 #6
Do you need a tissue? MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #7
or alternatively the president intends to fight for these things he firmly believes in arely staircase Jan 2013 #8
The Senate's chickenshit ways do not reflect on Obama. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #9
It's such a simple ruse, and we fall for it EVERY time. Yes, I loved Obama's speech. chimpymustgo Jan 2013 #12
I think you've got it. earthside Jan 2013 #54
Loved the President's speech? ProSense Jan 2013 #13
K&R This is a tremendously important OP, woo me with science Jan 2013 #14
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you really think anyone cares about that stupid visual? you really think you're changing any minds? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #27
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likewise. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #69
You're a riot, Hannah... SidDithers Jan 2013 #38
! JTFrog Jan 2013 #42
Apparently Bobbie Jo Jan 2013 #100
Plausible deniability and a culture of mutual back-washing. Bonobo Jan 2013 #19
Great post. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #68
I highly recommend everyone educate themselves about this or nothing will ever change. Bonobo Jan 2013 #20
yep. my senators rotate taking the unpopular votes when necessary. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #26
Maybe they ProSense Jan 2013 #43
Absolutely. I repost sections of it everywhere I can, woo me with science Jan 2013 #65
kr HiPointDem Jan 2013 #25
Yeap, not even 24 hrs and somehow Obama becomes complicate etc uponit7771 Jan 2013 #17
You begin with the assumption filibuster reform is bad Coyotl Jan 2013 #23
Fewer people voting will be the end result of this week stultusporcos Jan 2013 #24
I agree with sid's response...cough cough bullshit cough cough graham4anything Jan 2013 #28
Good post, Graham. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #31
I guess we'll see. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #29
I would hold Harry Reid responsible for what Harry Reid does Scootaloo Jan 2013 #32
It's eleventh dimension chess. ProSense Jan 2013 #34
A strong President doesn't let the Majority Leader do his own thing. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #56
Thank you. The outcome is consistent, because the process is coordinated. woo me with science Jan 2013 #59
+1 None are so blind as those who will not see BlueStreak Jan 2013 #64
I have some questions. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #70
I don't understand any of those questions. Are you aware of the party concept? BlueStreak Jan 2013 #74
Yeap, it's Obama's fault Reid is a wimp...lol uponit7771 Jan 2013 #73
Obama should be driving everything. Yes, it is Obama's fault. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #75
crap bigtree Jan 2013 #35
typical whining ShadesOfBlue Jan 2013 #39
This absolutely serves no purpose. great white snark Jan 2013 #40
It's unadulterated bullshit. nt bluestate10 Jan 2013 #94
Huh? n/t malaise Jan 2013 #41
ooh, cute little conspiracy theory. so Obama knew that cali Jan 2013 #44
I think it's spectacularly dumb to think that the Marr Jan 2013 #58
+100000 woo me with science Jan 2013 #63
Thanks. Marr Jan 2013 #66
You don't believe Reid is an asshole...got cha uponit7771 Jan 2013 #77
I didn't bother listening or reading the inaugaration speech eilen Jan 2013 #45
So it was Obama in the Kitchen with the Candelstick? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #46
Can you explain the logic of the OP? onenote Jan 2013 #50
Why do you think? Marr Jan 2013 #62
Excellent post, woo me with science Jan 2013 #82
DU declares: Obama second term already a failure, and on purpose geek tragedy Jan 2013 #88
He borrowed Stewie's Time Machine, went forward to see what would happen with the filibuster, then MADem Jan 2013 #111
Pathetic. FSogol Jan 2013 #52
well, my expectations for Obama's second term were already low, so this quinnox Jan 2013 #53
Exactly. But the geed news is that BlueStreak Jan 2013 #57
Yes, there's always some plot afoot alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #55
They aren't even hiding it anymore. leeroysphitz Jan 2013 #60
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agree upi402 Jan 2013 #67
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Kick for the fucking lulz... SidDithers Jan 2013 #72
Oh you poor thing. Bernie Sanders on the Ed Show: "Reid had 47 votes for Filibuster Reform." Cha Jan 2013 #76
+ 1 n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #80
I hope Bernie outs the Traitor Dems that fucked the process over. MessiahRp Jan 2013 #84
+ 1. obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2013 #95
He's obviously in on it. name not needed Jan 2013 #96
Facts don't mean a damned thing to some people. Some on DU love to attach bluestate10 Jan 2013 #99
Wow! This is exactly the kind of intelligent insight that keeps me at DU. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #78
I know.. best to add the Cha Jan 2013 #83
You do realize President isnt campaigning for reelection anymore.. right? DCBob Jan 2013 #85
Corporate Democrats will always feign naivete and try to make it about Obama. woo me with science Jan 2013 #86
I dont dispute the power of money in politics but.. DCBob Jan 2013 #89
His administration has worked persistently and effectively for corporate interests woo me with science Jan 2013 #90
Many things you list there are not so easily defined to be bad or good. DCBob Jan 2013 #92
Reid didn't have the votes. brush Jan 2013 #87
They never have the votes, by design. woo me with science Jan 2013 #98
Yeah, that is true. If a person is infatuated by conspiracy theories and are convinced that they bluestate10 Jan 2013 #101
See posts 58 and 62. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #104
Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #91
Kick. This is important. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #93
Yep, that is exactly what corporate Democrats do. The game is totally rigged. nt Zorra Jan 2013 #97
Filibuster reform is like playing with fire kudzu22 Jan 2013 #113
A) Reid cannot force people to vote a certain way; he can only try to persuade or pressure NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #114
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