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appal_jack

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22. Yup, too soon go judge!

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:41 AM

Jan 2013

I mean, if Obama in his first term had nominated corporatists like Tim Geithner after the biggest financial theft in our nation's history...

If he had nominated authoritarians like Eric Holder to the 'Justice' Dept., where he would spend more time & resources pursuing medical marijuana dispensaries than banksters...

If he had at least tacitly (and likely quite actively) presided over the national security apparatus as it treated peaceful Occupy protesters as likely terrorists...

THEN we might have an idea of Obama's direction and priorities.

Oh, wait, that's EXACTLY what he did during term 1. This filibuster charade sure seems like a tip of the hand about term 2...

Of course, the filibuster fiasco might actually serve to help keep the Second Amendment more intact for a while longer, so we've got a bit of a silver lining there...

But basically, military/corporate hegemony is in effect. If you've got any data to the contrary, I'd love to see it. Might cheer me up a bit.

-app

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The filbuster sell-out kind of explains Obama's "surprisingly liberal" inauguration speech. [View all] Marr Jan 2013 OP

Yep, cause nothing's getting passed now. Gun control? No NightWatcher Jan 2013 #1

yes, because his second term is a week old... that's enough time to get it all done OKNancy Jan 2013 #2

Thanks, OK. elleng Jan 2013 #3

Yup, too soon go judge! appal_jack Jan 2013 #22

Rain on Tim all you want madokie Jan 2013 #36

Yes, he did a great job in engineering a recovery... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #81

Thank you so much, Nancy! AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #30

I saw a post here yesterday, that said something along the lines of... FSogol Jan 2013 #51

What the hell is WRONG with him? Jeez!!! He should have checked off a few blocks on that list MADem Jan 2013 #102

It exposes Feinstein too and her assault weapons bill NOVA_Dem Jan 2013 #4

Well said. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #16

*cough* bullshit *cough*...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #5

So, you think this helps the chances for passage of progressive legislation in the 2nd term? leveymg Jan 2013 #10

I think that a post slamming Obama, for a failure of Reid and the other Senate Dems... SidDithers Jan 2013 #11

Right on cue: Try to make it about "slamming Obama." woo me with science Jan 2013 #18

Reminds me of a kindergartener who only eats PBJ with the crusts cut off. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #21

Because it is... SidDithers Jan 2013 #37

I don't mean to be rude, but RIF--that's what the OP is doing. nt MADem Jan 2013 #103

Obama is temporary. He is a current manifestation of a much larger problem. woo me with science Jan 2013 #105

You should really start your own thread to "talk about these things" rather than hide them in the MADem Jan 2013 #106

That's just silly. woo me with science Jan 2013 #107

No, it isn't silly, it is a separate topic, and you know it. Nice try, though. MADem Jan 2013 #108

LOL. Oh, it's been polluted with mockery by the usual corporate defenders, for sure... woo me with science Jan 2013 #110

Yeah, haul out that "corporate defenders" canard, too, when you don't get your way! MADem Jan 2013 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Jan 2013 #109

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith Jan 2013 #47

Thanks for posting the results... SidDithers Jan 2013 #48

Happy to SD! ohiosmith Jan 2013 #49

Yeah, I wasn't sure if we were allowed Cha Jan 2013 #79

Reid has a good ranking with the NRA, and likely didn't want to screw that up AndyA Jan 2013 #6

Do you need a tissue? MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #7

or alternatively the president intends to fight for these things he firmly believes in arely staircase Jan 2013 #8

The Senate's chickenshit ways do not reflect on Obama. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #9

It's such a simple ruse, and we fall for it EVERY time. Yes, I loved Obama's speech. chimpymustgo Jan 2013 #12

I think you've got it. earthside Jan 2013 #54

Loved the President's speech? ProSense Jan 2013 #13

K&R This is a tremendously important OP, woo me with science Jan 2013 #14

. ProSense Jan 2013 #15

you really think anyone cares about that stupid visual? you really think you're changing any minds? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #27

Do you really think I give a shit? ProSense Jan 2013 #33

likewise. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #69

You're a riot, Hannah... SidDithers Jan 2013 #38

! JTFrog Jan 2013 #42

Apparently Bobbie Jo Jan 2013 #100

Plausible deniability and a culture of mutual back-washing. Bonobo Jan 2013 #19

Great post. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #68

I highly recommend everyone educate themselves about this or nothing will ever change. Bonobo Jan 2013 #20

yep. my senators rotate taking the unpopular votes when necessary. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #26

Maybe they ProSense Jan 2013 #43

Absolutely. I repost sections of it everywhere I can, woo me with science Jan 2013 #65

kr HiPointDem Jan 2013 #25

Yeap, not even 24 hrs and somehow Obama becomes complicate etc uponit7771 Jan 2013 #17

You begin with the assumption filibuster reform is bad Coyotl Jan 2013 #23

Fewer people voting will be the end result of this week stultusporcos Jan 2013 #24

I agree with sid's response...cough cough bullshit cough cough graham4anything Jan 2013 #28

Good post, Graham. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #31

I guess we'll see. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #29

I would hold Harry Reid responsible for what Harry Reid does Scootaloo Jan 2013 #32

It's eleventh dimension chess. ProSense Jan 2013 #34

A strong President doesn't let the Majority Leader do his own thing. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #56

Thank you. The outcome is consistent, because the process is coordinated. woo me with science Jan 2013 #59

+1 None are so blind as those who will not see BlueStreak Jan 2013 #64

I have some questions. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #70

I don't understand any of those questions. Are you aware of the party concept? BlueStreak Jan 2013 #74

Yeap, it's Obama's fault Reid is a wimp...lol uponit7771 Jan 2013 #73

Obama should be driving everything. Yes, it is Obama's fault. BlueStreak Jan 2013 #75

crap bigtree Jan 2013 #35

typical whining ShadesOfBlue Jan 2013 #39

This absolutely serves no purpose. great white snark Jan 2013 #40

It's unadulterated bullshit. nt bluestate10 Jan 2013 #94

Huh? n/t malaise Jan 2013 #41

ooh, cute little conspiracy theory. so Obama knew that cali Jan 2013 #44

I think it's spectacularly dumb to think that the Marr Jan 2013 #58

+100000 woo me with science Jan 2013 #63

Thanks. Marr Jan 2013 #66

You don't believe Reid is an asshole...got cha uponit7771 Jan 2013 #77

I didn't bother listening or reading the inaugaration speech eilen Jan 2013 #45

So it was Obama in the Kitchen with the Candelstick? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #46

Can you explain the logic of the OP? onenote Jan 2013 #50

Why do you think? Marr Jan 2013 #62

Excellent post, woo me with science Jan 2013 #82

DU declares: Obama second term already a failure, and on purpose geek tragedy Jan 2013 #88

He borrowed Stewie's Time Machine, went forward to see what would happen with the filibuster, then MADem Jan 2013 #111

Pathetic. FSogol Jan 2013 #52

well, my expectations for Obama's second term were already low, so this quinnox Jan 2013 #53

Exactly. But the geed news is that BlueStreak Jan 2013 #57

Yes, there's always some plot afoot alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #55

They aren't even hiding it anymore. leeroysphitz Jan 2013 #60

And now the CorpoDems can... 99Forever Jan 2013 #61

agree upi402 Jan 2013 #67

Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #71

Kick for the fucking lulz... SidDithers Jan 2013 #72

Oh you poor thing. Bernie Sanders on the Ed Show: "Reid had 47 votes for Filibuster Reform." Cha Jan 2013 #76

+ 1 n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #80

I hope Bernie outs the Traitor Dems that fucked the process over. MessiahRp Jan 2013 #84

+ 1. obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2013 #95

He's obviously in on it. name not needed Jan 2013 #96

Facts don't mean a damned thing to some people. Some on DU love to attach bluestate10 Jan 2013 #99

Wow! This is exactly the kind of intelligent insight that keeps me at DU. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #78

I know.. best to add the Cha Jan 2013 #83

You do realize President isnt campaigning for reelection anymore.. right? DCBob Jan 2013 #85

Corporate Democrats will always feign naivete and try to make it about Obama. woo me with science Jan 2013 #86

I dont dispute the power of money in politics but.. DCBob Jan 2013 #89

His administration has worked persistently and effectively for corporate interests woo me with science Jan 2013 #90

Many things you list there are not so easily defined to be bad or good. DCBob Jan 2013 #92

Reid didn't have the votes. brush Jan 2013 #87

They never have the votes, by design. woo me with science Jan 2013 #98

Yeah, that is true. If a person is infatuated by conspiracy theories and are convinced that they bluestate10 Jan 2013 #101

See posts 58 and 62. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #104

Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #91

Kick. This is important. nt woo me with science Jan 2013 #93

Yep, that is exactly what corporate Democrats do. The game is totally rigged. nt Zorra Jan 2013 #97

Filibuster reform is like playing with fire kudzu22 Jan 2013 #113

A) Reid cannot force people to vote a certain way; he can only try to persuade or pressure NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #114