Guns should not be kept in houses where children are present

[farminator3000]

125. not entertaining at all, you are a NRA drone, wake up and join society-you wouldn't know principles

if they bit you @ the ass.

I thought you said AZ had no gun laws. Let me scroll back...Ah yes, here we go ""i say 14 states have no gun laws, which is correct". But now you're saying AZ says people have to be 18 to buy a rifle and 21 to buy a handgun. So now they DO have gun laws? Make up your mind already.

stop being childish. you know exactly what i mean.

i posted you a chart, because you seem to have trouble with words. you still don't get it.

i personally, wouldn't qualify 'anyone over 18 gets a sniper rifle' as any kind of law. it is a glaring lack of laws, especially when the GUY WHO MAKES THE SNIPER RIFLES is ON THE NRA BOARD: RONNIE BARRETT .50cal SNIPER RIFLE AVAILABLE IN 48 STATES.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/nra-board-members-selleck-nugent?page=2

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/nra-board-newtown-bushmaster?page=1

14 states have BASICALLY NO GUN LAWS. any sane person with eyes can see that by looking at a simple chart.

you are bascially saying the entire populations of CA and MA are weaklings and dumb for allowing themselves to be oppressed.
real mature.

from that point on, i didn't even read your crap, because it is another big jumble of plagiarized groupthink.

Thats the fact of the matter, and proof of it can be found in the original posting of those names in that order in the guns forum here on DU. I guarantee you that anywhere else you find that list posted exactly as it is here in the guns forum, was posted AFTER it was here. So I guess you're wrong again. A+ for being consistent though.

hardy freaking har. some guy on an NRA chat board stole your carefully prepared 'positions'?

you are so full of it i can smell it thru the internet.

i personally think you ARE that dude you claim stole your shit, so WTF are you doing? really?

your shill is really shrill, that's about all i have to say.

i'm done with ya, but here's some stuff for other people to read.

i really couldn't care less what you say you 'think' about guns, stop wasting my time!

and stop defending the NRA, they are a bunch of greedy assholes!

http://swampland.time.com/2013/01/24/fact-check-the-gun-registry-red-herring/
"He wants to put every private, personal transaction under the thumb of the federal government, and he wants to keep all those names in a massive federal registry. There are only two reasons for that federal list of gun owners —to tax them or take them."-Wayne LaPoopoo

Obama has not proposed a federal gun registry, which is currently barred under federal law. But LaPierre’s words–part fact, part falsehood, part paranoia–require careful parsing.

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SCHUMER: Heller also said that there should be reasonable limitations, that they’re allowed reasonable limitations. I don’t think that lady needs an assault weapon. I don’t think she needs a 100-round clip. I don’t think, for instance, that those things would help her in any way. So so to say she has a right to bear arms: yes. To say, just like on the first amendment — we say you can’t scream “fire” in a crowd falsely, we have anti-pornography laws, anti-libel laws. There are reasonable limitations. And the NRA [National Rifle Association], in many instances, doesn’t believe in any limitation at all. That’s not unconstitutional. That just is dumb.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/20/1474481/schumer-rips-ted-cruzs-pro-gun-propaganda-that-just-is-dumb/

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In a Wall Street Journal article, allegedly substantiating his more-guns-less-crime thesis, Lott presents statistical “evidence” containing an incredible implication: a 33 percent increase in gun ownership would eradicate violent crime (i.e. reduce this crime rate to 0).
http://www.ahwatukee.com/opinion/article_6708c04e-59b2-11e2-bcd6-0019bb2963f4.html

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/debunking-the-gun-culture_b_2332088.html
REALITY: Nope. Not true. I'll let conservative analyst and former Bush speechwriter David Frum take this one:

A gun in the house minimally doubles the risk that a household member will kill himself or herself. (Some studies put the increase in suicide risk as high as 10 times.) An American is 50% more likely to be shot dead by his or her own hand than to be shot dead by a criminal assailant. More than 30,000 Americans injure themselves with guns every year.

And here's Science Daily:

In a first-of its-kind study, epidemiologists at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine found that, on average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. The study estimated that people with a gun were 4.5 times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not possessing a gun.

Need more? Here's the American Journal of Lifestyle:

Author David Hemenway studied the various risks of having a gun in the home, including accidents, suicide, homicide, and intimidation. Additionally, the benefits of having a firearm in a household were also examined and those benefits included deterrence, and thwarting crimes (self-defense). From this in-depth look, it was concluded that homes with guns were not safer or deter more crime than those that do not. In fact, it was found that in homes with children or women, the health risks were even greater. "Whereas most men are murdered away from home," wrote Hemenway. "Most children, older adults, and women are murdered at home. A gun in the home is a particularly strong risk factor for female homicide victimization."

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Protection Or Peril? Gun Possession Of Questionable Value In An Assault, Study Finds

Sep. 30, 2009 — In a first-of its-kind study, epidemiologists at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine found that, on average, guns did not protect those who possessed them from being shot in an assault. The study estimated that people with a gun were 4.5 times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not possessing a gun
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090930121512.htm

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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/12/nra-propaganda-shootings-newtown
The document's text and its illustrations are so over-the-top that when they were first leaked by Wonkette, there was speculation that they were a hoax. But the NRA confirmed they were real, though it maintained they were from a stolen draft of a publication that has still yet to be publicly released.

In their introductory note, NRA president Waye LaPierre and chief NRA lobbyist Chris Cox warn of "the coming confrontation" between the "pro-freedom voting bloc" and "the gun-ban crowd." Though they focused on the threat of anti-gun legislation carried out under the guise of fighting terrorism, LaPierre and Cox also anticipated the calls for action that might follow an event such as the Newtown massacre:

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Guns were last straw for me with GOP
By Steve Kozachik, Special to CNN
updated 5:43 PM EST, Tue January 22, 2013

Steve Kozachik organized a gun buyback in Tucson, the city where Gabby Giffords was shot
He was vilified and threatened by pro-gun people, who staged a "Cash for Guns" flea market
This spurred Kozachik to leave the GOP, which he says is beholden to gun lobby
Kozachik: Discussion of sensible reforms is drowned out by extremists

Editor's note: Steve Kozachik is vice mayor and a member of the Tucson City Council.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/22/opinion/kozachik-gun-buyback/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2013/01/22/who-knew-the-leading-cause-of-gun-death-is-suicide/