Looks like Anonymous has hacked into the SCOTUS website - pissed about Swartz

[graham4anything]

151. Who asked them to? Was a vote taken? Was a poll taken? What do we do now?

Threats lead to dangerous things

and again, if you burn something down, you sure as hell gotta have a plan for what the next day will be it's replacement.

you can't just say it will be better.
because then 9 out of 10 times it will be worse for a long time after, til it gets better.

It took 100 years from Lincoln to LBJ
it took 50 years from LBJ to Obama

it was 38 years out of 50 where things went bad
and people expect perfection in a mere 4 years since THE REVOLUTION WAS PEACEFULLY WON IN 2008.

Remember the movie (as V is fiction, let's keep it on entertainment fiction-
The Candidate.

remember the last line?

WHAT DO WE DO NOW?


well, before I want something torn down, I want to know what comes the Day After.
Because well, survivalists are what drives the NRA and vigilantes and guns and the survival of the fittest Lord of the Flies scenerios.

I myself prefer Order to Chaos.
or is it Control over Kaos?

Did anyone in Nazi Germany when they massed to the man in the hidden mask(though Hitler wore no mask, he masked his intentions if he even knew at that first moment what his plan was)
Did anyone ask
WHAT DO WE DO NOW, prior to voting him in?

whereas
President Obama HAS A PLAN
Dr. King HAD AN ENDGOAL IN HIS PLAN

this is flailing in the wind, making threats, but having NO idea of how to accomplish it, and it turns ugly, violent, and making threats to me is akin to anarchy and/or terrorism.
Sending in a list of demands reeks of a B movie film noir scenerio.

and in real life, in past times we have seen what the REAL Tim McCowards did in Oklahoma City solely based on paranoia conspiracy THEORIES when Janet Reno gave them all the time in the world, til they went and killed federal agents
(which is a no-no in any book at any time. You just don't do that and expect good to come out of it, no matter what).
Logic led to my conclusions on that, and it took a number of years, as I never heard of groups stockpiling guns to use to overthrow a government in bad contexts before.

The 1960s were now 50 years ago.
Even most protesters at that time, the leaders still around have almost all renounced violence as a way to do things.
Same as protesters today demand NO TORTURE, well, violence is torture and making threats
IS VIOLENCE
and it is all connected

You do not use the two wrongs make it right.
NO, two wrongs are two wrongs.

and as that side so uses the constititon, well, voting is the way of change
running for office is the way to change by winning

copping out and saying here you do it, but we demand this anyhow
WELL, if you legally can run, pull off the mask and run

Get a majority of the votes.
If you present a good POSITIVE case anyone can win.(but I am talking lower office, you work your way up, like 99% of the workers in America, you start at the bottom, and work your way up. YOU DO NOT START AT THE TOP.
This is America after all.
That is how it works.

pull off the masks, and run for office, if you don't like the job the people who did just that are doing.

But don't make threats and burn it down, without telling anyone what will be there the day after? I guarantee you, it will NOT be better.
Not for the 99.9% of the world, let alone America.