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Cirque du So-What

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3. Existing laws aren't effective, apparently

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 02:54 PM

Jan 2013

and that's why federal laws are needed to tackle this problem. For too long, firearms manufacturers in states with loosey-goosey laws on the books are able to produce guns hand-over-fist for export to crime-riddled areas that are fighting a losing battle against gun violence due to the ready availability of firearms:

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The MAIG Report shows States with weak gun laws produce different outcomes. More
than half the guns recovered in out-of-state crimes last year were supplied by Georgia,
Florida, Texas, Virginia and six other states where weak laws make it easy for gun
traffickers and other criminals to obtain weapons.
Weak gun laws also put a state’s own citizens at risk. There were nearly 60 percent
more gun murders in the 10 states where exports were highest than in the states with
low export rates — and nearly three times as many fatal shootings of law enforcement
officers. The study by the mayors’ group isn't the first to document the link between weak
gun laws and gun violence or the “iron pipeline” by which guns flow from states with
weak gun laws into states with strong ones. Still, the numbers are startling. They explain
why the gun lobby resisted their release, and they provide a powerful retort to those who
claim tougher gun laws don’t work.

http://www.lwvil.org/IB_09/IB_GunViolence_09.pdf

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Strike at the root of gun violence by shutting down the 'iron pipeline' [View all] Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 OP

correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #1

Existing laws aren't effective, apparently Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #3

The laws are Federal sarisataka Jan 2013 #8

I'm referring primarily to weak state laws Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #10

Truth is not true sarisataka Jan 2013 #12

In that case, those convicted should not be voting members of that org Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #15

To me sarisataka Jan 2013 #18

So, what - in your estimation - IS the true agenda of this billionaire-founded organization? Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #23

Same as the NRA sarisataka Jan 2013 #25

well then that is a state issue Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #16

Yes, and those weak state laws are the problem Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #20

Felons ??....your list below has Class C misdemeanors for one.... pkdu Jan 2013 #31

I did not say they are all felons yet sarisataka Jan 2013 #34

we should tear up Interstate 95 right out of the ground datasuspect Jan 2013 #2

Let's not get hasty Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #6

Why not back up even farther and take a good, hard look at the weapons manufactures themselves. RC Jan 2013 #4

There should be a crack down on arms trafficking. hack89 Jan 2013 #5

So..... random stops on I-95? Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #7

Starting with federal laws Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #9

So, to shut down the 'iron pipeline' Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #13

Nice attempt to put words in my mouth Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #17

ok, i asked, and got what I read above, so, tell me.... Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #21

I consider holding dealers accountable to be a good start Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #24

FFL dealers? Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #27

Google Tiahrt amendments....then think about your first paragraph ... pkdu Jan 2013 #32

Will read more, but the FoP seemed to like it. Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #36

Actually state police already do this when they got intelligence nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #11

Then it wouldn't be random Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #14

It appears that you are missing the point. jazzimov Jan 2013 #19

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #26

No, I get the point Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #29

OK, now I am officially confused. jazzimov Jan 2013 #30

Yes, serious debate Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #35

Some excellent points! jazzimov Jan 2013 #38

Since the transportation of guns across state laws Lurks Often Jan 2013 #37

Which means the laws are ineffective, because they are impossible to enforce. jazzimov Jan 2013 #39

"Impossible to enforce" Lurks Often Jan 2013 #40

The same way we've stopped pot and cocaine from being smuggled on 95 Recursion Jan 2013 #28

Well they do still try by stopping every car with black males in them on 95 that they can stultusporcos Jan 2013 #33

It sounds like NY criminals are the root of the problem. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #22