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Eleanors38

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54. I kind of agree. Seems to be a limited-use weapon in general police work...

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:54 PM

Jan 2013

The little town of Rollingwood, TX (near Austin) cannot even obtain these weapons due to the sell-out nationally. Curiously, the local paper described the weapons sought as M-16 Bushmaster in .223 caliber. My limited knowledge of weapons indicates that M-16s are FULL AUTO. If so, how would they be affected by the crush in sales of AR platformed rifles? Either it is a new model or someone writing in New Delhi has confused FULL AUTO with the SEMI-AUTO AR-15.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local-govt-politics/law-enforcement-agencies-face-wait-on-guns-ammunit/nT7Jp/

Historically, LEOs have a fear of being outgunned by criminals, stemming from the days of Prohibition (alcohol, that is), the motor bandits, and spectacular shoot-outs in Miami and North Hollywood. But I think equipping rank-and-file officers with this type of weapon (semi-auto, I guess) is a little much. Perhaps they should remain in SWAT units or other specialized police groups.

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Police Assault Rifles Approved In Marion, Iowa; Department Joins Trend, Will Buy AR-15s For Officers [View all] onehandle Jan 2013 OP

Marion police are notoriously aggressive. mr_hat Jan 2013 #1

More and more like Beirut / Baghdad every day. Junkdrawer Jan 2013 #2

They are useful in some self-defense situations aikoaiko Jan 2013 #3

that seems to be more opinion than fact farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26

Yes, but it is the position of LEO who are issued AR-15s aikoaiko Jan 2013 #45

not the position of the one from my post, obviously. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #48

I kind of agree. Seems to be a limited-use weapon in general police work... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #54

AR's are great defensive options for Citizens and LEO's ileus Jan 2013 #4

Sorry, but "every family that enjoys firearms" should not have one, or two . . . . . . . Hoyt Jan 2013 #5

I don't know...my LEO BIL sold my wife his ileus Jan 2013 #6

Once again, the AR does not belong in civilian hands nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #9

Just curious, but how do you feel about the Ruger Mini-14? NickB79 Jan 2013 #25

Ah the usual game nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #38

Thank you for your honesty NickB79 Jan 2013 #41

I don't care if they are black nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #42

Actually Domestic Violence Calls are the Some of the Most Dangerous dballance Jan 2013 #37

And for EMS crews too nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #39

and CRIMINALS too. get it? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #10

Right, gunz gunz and more gunzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz DainBramaged Jan 2013 #12

And over the top they go. moondust Jan 2013 #7

It's a suburb of Cedar Rapids. Initech Jan 2013 #15

I'm familiar with the area. moondust Jan 2013 #17

nice one! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29

Probably Rodney. moondust Jan 2013 #44

No money for schools but they have $50K to blow on dangerous weapons. Makes sense. Initech Jan 2013 #8

somebody should tell the gun bunnies about how their NRA-funded BS law-blocking farminator3000 Jan 2013 #11

Why does the artillery care about cops having ARs? SQUEE Jan 2013 #14

While I don't disagree with LEO's having... rppper Jan 2013 #13

Semi-Autos are NOT "Assault *Rifles*". An Assault *Rifle* is full auto... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #16

Not true. Gun shops and manufacturers market these guns as tactical and strategic weapons. Hoyt Jan 2013 #18

And again I say: You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own FACTS... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #20

you are doing a disservice to your 'cause' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34

What, exactly, is *my* "cause"?? Furthermore.. Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #60

And auto manufacturers marketed the Hummer NickB79 Jan 2013 #28

You've missed the point - sick people buy them for the tactical aspect. Hoyt Jan 2013 #33

yes, 'sick people' sounds about right farminator3000 Jan 2013 #35

NOT comfortable with increasingly militarized cops. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #19

+1 woo me with science Jan 2013 #61

Then they leave them in their cars Union Scribe Jan 2013 #21

no idea why his glock was left in the car. mine is always with me regardless of where i go loli phabay Jan 2013 #27

for two grand each i would expect them to be full auto. thats expensive for a semi auto basic loli phabay Jan 2013 #22

Not anymore (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #24

still expensive. i just ordered a rock river arms full auto carbine and i only paid twelve hundred loli phabay Jan 2013 #30

I'd bet the $2k per includes a service contract Recursion Jan 2013 #31

yup probuably. though id prefer to by my own as you can personalize it. loli phabay Jan 2013 #32

maybe the taxes will be raised to 50% of purchase price by the time you get your 'fun gun' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36

Full Auto? RC Jan 2013 #47

no you just need to do the paperwork and pay the two hundred bucks stamp loli phabay Jan 2013 #49

That's it? $200 and some paperwork? RC Jan 2013 #50

well the paperwork is a background check and needs to be signed off by the sheriff or police chief loli phabay Jan 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Jan 2013 #56

I'm wondering how you are buying a new full auto carbine ...... oldhippie Jan 2013 #57

New Hampshire Police Chiefs Hold a 31-Gun Raffle for a Training Program farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23

I have a stupid question... but it worries me... I have never owned a gun... nenagh Jan 2013 #40

Here's one. moondust Jan 2013 #46

The AR-15 would probably tend to reduce this. loose wheel Jan 2013 #53

Thank you.... nenagh Jan 2013 #58

ARs are particularly good in this regard. k2qb3 Jan 2013 #55

Thank you... nenagh Jan 2013 #59

Militarized pigs = doubleplusungood. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #43

What about escalation? geomon666 Jan 2013 #51