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John2

(2,730 posts)
42. You people keep
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

saying rigging the Electoral vote is legal because the pundits and politicians say so. They say it is legal because two rural states with very little populations have this system. Nobody paid any attention to those systems or challenge it because they never threatened an Election on the national level.

Show me the court ruling these pundits and politicians say this is legal versus the court ruling in 1962 saying this was illegal on the local level in the state of Alabama by the U.S. Supreme Court? That court ruling filed against the state of Alabama for diluting the voting power of the city of Birmingham. That is how we got one man, one vote. There are several other cases and one was in California involving the cities of San Francisco, San Diego and Los Angeles where the complainant tried to dilute the votes of those cities. He loss the case and pointed to the national election with the President and Senate.

The pundits and politicians take the Constitution and interpret it to fit want accommodates them at a certain point in time. There is no time in the history of this country a President did not win the State that he won the popular vote in this country. People site one of two cases on the overall vote on the national level but not involving individual states.

If you can select a President with you theory on districts, then why not electing both Senators and the Governor that way too? They can lose the popular votes of the citizens on the local level too and win the most districts. You can do the mayoral contests the same way by winning the most precincts. If that was the founders intent, then they would have done so. It has never came up as a problem in this country's history until we got a right wing extremist group and certain Democrats who also want individual power instead of serving the people.

The power belongs to the people and no one should accept otherwise because they work for us. We tell them what we agree to and if they don't, we have the right to forcibly, tar and feather them and run them out of office. The power of the Constitution comes from the people that agree to it. It does not come from any individual or small group of people. So tinkering with our rights to decide whom leads this country should not be tampered with ever. It does give us the right to have a Civil War if necessary. Two can play their dangerous games. See our past Civil War. The Supreme Court made interpretations then they people willfully turned a blind eye too. Their check on power grabbing is ultimately with the people that gave them the right to hold office over us.

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The GOP is IMO now an American terrorist organization. They are doing their best to RKP5637 Jan 2013 #1
+1 valerief Jan 2013 #2
+100 ybbor Jan 2013 #5
+1, lol...I can relate uponit7771 Jan 2013 #17
The GOP is IMO now an American terrorist organization. Flashmann Jan 2013 #27
Sad, but quite true. And what is even sadder are those voters that enable them, that just can't RKP5637 Jan 2013 #29
I lay the blame for that,squarley on Flashmann Jan 2013 #30
Same here. I'm a little older, but it was similar where I went to school. RKP5637 Jan 2013 #33
! City Lights Jan 2013 #43
I agree SylviaD Jan 2013 #49
It's a very treacherous road the republicans are trying to create. Many will go off the cliff. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #53
There is no room... SylviaD Jan 2013 #56
+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #59
If what you say is true (and I believe it is)... SylviaD Jan 2013 #58
This is the part that irks me, apparently, in the republican brain, freedom of speech means RKP5637 Jan 2013 #60
Agreed 100%!!!! But what can be done? I fear not much. I am struggling with this. nt SylviaD Jan 2013 #61
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k&r... spanone Jan 2013 #3
It's this crap that'll sparks the next civil war. PFunk Jan 2013 #4
+1 ybbor Jan 2013 #6
2014, yeah, if we can get there. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #22
Exactly, and especially about the time democracies last. Generally those at the top of the RKP5637 Jan 2013 #24
Snyder and his rethug cohearts tiredtoo Jan 2013 #7
Republicans do NOT believe in democracy. Stonepounder Jan 2013 #8
Well said! The republicans are trying to and will destroy this democracy. Too many Americans are RKP5637 Jan 2013 #9
+1000! tex-wyo-dem Jan 2013 #21
If they do not believe in democracy, perhaps they shouldn't be allowed to participate in it. nt SylviaD Jan 2013 #57
If this Lobo27 Jan 2013 #10
There could have been the biggest shit storm in history, and the Republicans would have had no Stonepounder Jan 2013 #13
The republicans would take us fully into a police state while claiming they are protecting, "we the RKP5637 Jan 2013 #25
1. Marsh was stupid to leave town, an example of how 2. Democrats STILL don't grasp the VENALITY WinkyDink Jan 2013 #11
-- but he left during a national holiday. jerseyjack Jan 2013 #20
i don't think it's possible to anticipate barbtries Jan 2013 #37
I think it is. Just assume that any conniving and soulless backstabbing that is possible Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #41
maybe barbtries Jan 2013 #54
Maybe? You're agreeing with me. Why say maybe? Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #64
what i said was barbtries Jan 2013 #65
I know what you mean. Most of us just aren't depraved enough to think of every thing a Republican Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #66
If our party does not come back at this full force, grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author earcandle Jan 2013 #14
The question is this: Left Coast2020 Jan 2013 #15
shame the conservative electorate into not voting for them any longer uponit7771 Jan 2013 #19
The USA is a Democratic Republic, but B Calm Jan 2013 #16
A more or less democratic Republic, really pretty much LESS ever since the latter 2/3 of the 19th patrice Jan 2013 #52
Many rethugs don't like what they're doing either.. uponit7771 Jan 2013 #18
If that's true... 2naSalit Jan 2013 #23
This is a section of a NY Post Editorial 4Q2u2 Jan 2013 #28
And that would be the 2naSalit Jan 2013 #38
then they should switch parties. barbtries Jan 2013 #36
Rather than change their misguided and unpopular policies CanonRay Jan 2013 #26
this will probably lead to complete paralysis and chaos Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #32
The chaos is still on its way CanonRay Jan 2013 #39
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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #34
i'm close to believing barbtries Jan 2013 #35
If we want to have any chance of stopping it FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #40
You people keep John2 Jan 2013 #42
Show me anywhere in the Constitution that prevents states from doing it. jeff47 Jan 2013 #45
But...but...we're doomed. randome Jan 2013 #47
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"You people"? Your crown's a bit crooked, Your Majesty... VOX Jan 2013 #55
Just how many?? jdg18rabbit Jan 2013 #44
Can Confessions be Coerced? dimitri43 Jan 2013 #46
We should ask why "Blue States" end up with ultra-red sate legislatures ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #48
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We're already seeing America being torn apart on a daily basis. Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #62
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