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R. Daneel Olivaw

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59. I'm not sure if I agree with the premise.

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:09 PM

Jan 2013

One group of assh*les do not necessarily need to learn from another group of assh*les. There is, I would suggest, divergent paths which can lead to the same behaviors or results. I would never suggest that the Israelis have learned anything from the Nazis in the realm of torture in an educational sense, but given that different nations, who have a reviled subculture/subclass or group, usually find ways to be even more brutal in their methodology and indifferent to suffering: regardless if they have suffered in the past.

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I have said that the Israelis learned well from the Nazis...... PDJane Jan 2013 #1

Abused children really do grow up to emulate their abusers Ian Iam Jan 2013 #18

I agree Janecita Jan 2013 #30

As do nations pocoloco Jan 2013 #32

you've said a lot more than that. cali Jan 2013 #23

And you've whined every time I say something that has its roots in truth. PDJane Jan 2013 #40

there's been a rise in Jews from that era PatrynXX Jan 2013 #35

I'm not sure if I agree with the premise. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #59

It will be fascinating to see .... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #2

At least part of it is from a respectable UK newspaper. el_bryanto Jan 2013 #4

The only part that matters is from a decent newspaper. I was not referring to ... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #7

Is Haaretz a good source? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #6

I am unfamiliar with it. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #9

Ha'Aretz is Israel's main center left paper nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #46

Wow. So this really is nasty. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #49

Yup, it is nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #51

Yes. Haaretz is an excellent source. cali Jan 2013 #20

That's Israel's main news source. Matariki Jan 2013 #42

the article makes it pretty clear that the government has admitted it. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #8

Yes. I read it. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #12

Uh, I humbly suggest you watch out regarding this post. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #3

Irs been tested/challenged/alerted, elleng Jan 2013 #27

This is one of the more disturbing stories I've heard in a while Marrah_G Jan 2013 #5

Just to make it clear, the US did this kind of thing into the 1970s, and beyond that HiPointDem Jan 2013 #10

It is likely that most people here are aware... redqueen Jan 2013 #15

"follows in nazi footsteps" = so yes. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #16

So if you ever walked between the rails you'd be a trolley car? TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #48

that's the ticket. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #58

Of course we are. From Prescott and his clan all the way to the present-day rethugs. People b4 profits Jan 2013 #22

The abused often become the abuser malaise Jan 2013 #11

Someone needs to go to prison. bunnies Jan 2013 #13

Well, don't worry. The Tea Party will put and end to this. You know how much they hate Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #14

I so wanted to post this yesterday but figured it would just get hidden anyway. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #17

Because we enable them!!! Janecita Jan 2013 #25

I'm not a citizen of America Ian Iam Jan 2013 #19

Well, we finance lots of them. And you Brits aren't much better. cali Jan 2013 #21

What foreign country has the most disproportionately-high influence Ian Iam Jan 2013 #24

Israel of course! Janecita Jan 2013 #26

Yep libodem Jan 2013 #29

Israel, the Gulf States and Britain. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #55

Well, I guess that's an improvement? Scootaloo Jan 2013 #33

See reply 24, please. Ian Iam Jan 2013 #36

Given our Homeland Security nonsense and a bunch of other things I could list, Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #37

How dare you criticize Israel?! KamaAina Jan 2013 #28

Just an example atreides1 Jan 2013 #31

Can't wait to see how the apoligists for Israel's government Chakab Jan 2013 #34

Check out the running thread in the I/P forum Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #44

Like the gungeon nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #47

Started in England .. I thought? legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #38

It did start in England, PDJane Jan 2013 #43

Sigh... Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #39

Reminded me of this song Fumesucker Jan 2013 #41

This is what shows how rotten people can become nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #45

Absolutely disgusting rhetoric in this OP. tritsofme Jan 2013 #50

but you offered one nonetheless, utterly devoid of real substance... mike_c Jan 2013 #52

The Israeli government has admitted to this nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #53

Can I ask what you think the problem with it is? hrmjustin Jan 2013 #54

So you're in denial about what actually happened? JackRiddler Jan 2013 #56

This is beyond the pale. I will no longer support anything Israel does. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #57

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