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178. Your message is lost in the weeds

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:40 PM

Jan 2013

You'll be nitpicked to death.

Personally, I drive a Juke; a car which, though very compact, has a high ground clearance, compensated with independent 4-wheel steering for control. My wife was in a crash a few weeks ago. Although the car that rear-ended her left his license plate number stamped on the muffler and that car, a Nissan Acura, had to be towed from the scene, airbag deployed, my wife was able to drive the car from the scene after being crunched between the Acura and a Grand Marquis in front. Total damage to our vehicle, $9,000.00 Total damage to wife and son, $0.00. A car that can drive away with that much damage is a good car.

I understand your point about guns, and I agree with it.

But you steered and crashed into a whole different subject...

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Reason people buy AR-15 type guns is similar to the reason why people buy Huge SUVs... [View all] srican69 Jan 2013 OP

Husbands buy huge SUV's for their wives and kids because big means more protection DainBramaged Jan 2013 #1

There is a peer reviewed study on this .. I am not giving my 'opinion' srican69 Jan 2013 #2

Fail DainBramaged Jan 2013 #3

if you say so. srican69 Jan 2013 #4

I remember this study of Hummer drivers... KansDem Jan 2013 #81

Some of us need MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #176

That is why I had one back when. HubertHeaver Jan 2013 #179

That would not explain SUVs in Southern California. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #191

I don't know them MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #192

In Michigan, during a snowstorm, the easiest place to find an SUV FrodosPet Jan 2013 #227

can't argue with logic like that.. frylock Jan 2013 #20

What? You don't find "Fail!" to be a compelling argument? Squinch Jan 2013 #80

Fail DainBramaged Jan 2013 #99

Doorknob Squinch Jan 2013 #103

Ignored DainBramaged Jan 2013 #104

Yay! Squinch Jan 2013 #114

You should get a gold star sharp_stick Jan 2013 #170

Thank you ! Squinch Jan 2013 #171

Only one prize is suitable: muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #199

. Squinch Jan 2013 #221

You win Major Nikon Jan 2013 #181

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA we can do it Jan 2013 #122

Thanks! Squinch Jan 2013 #123

+1000 we can do it Jan 2013 #85

Link? diphthong Jan 2013 #10

I cant find the peer reviewed article but here is the interview on CBS 60 minutes srican69 Jan 2013 #23

Go back to DU v.2 and search under my old name "Cryingshame". I posted this info numerous times. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #52

Starting to search old info: KittyWampus Jan 2013 #54

Same psychology as the bullet bumpers on the '55 Cad - "don't mess with me" message to others. leveymg Jan 2013 #62

Please provide enough information so I can hunt down that study. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbq6lUgG8gA srican69 Jan 2013 #30

Is the study about cars "peer-reviewed," or your opinion about AR-15s and reptiles? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #34

A search of Psychlit shows no peer-reviewed articles for Clotaire Rapaille. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #39

"peer reviewed" is the most absurdly overused DU phrase. Rapaille makes a living on marketing psych KittyWampus Jan 2013 #56

"four-wheel-drive behemoth carries more carrots than climbing gear" Americans? "carrots"? Yavin4 Jan 2013 #77

Big macs? we can do it Jan 2013 #136

Much better n/t Yavin4 Jan 2013 #140

the appeal of "peer reviewed" is the peers doing the reviewing... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #108

"Freud Explorer"!! Great pun. nt tblue37 Jan 2013 #128

Almost as good as a Freud Probe? we can do it Jan 2013 #167

Sounds like he's following in the footsteps of Edward Bernays deutsey Jan 2013 #197

Thanks for the info. Sounded pretty cantilevered. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #64

One of the men who was involved in the marketing wrote about this. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #53

Marketing what, SUVs or AR 15s? And what is the import of this? Thanks. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #66

Will you please explain the failure in logic? ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #6

It depends on who you ask... Taverner Jan 2013 #12

They sure carry a shitload more comfortably DainBramaged Jan 2013 #21

might be your logic that's failing here? 0rganism Jan 2013 #24

Meh DainBramaged Jan 2013 #63

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. baldguy Jan 2013 #180

Meh, another DU grammar smith DainBramaged Jan 2013 #193

I too used to often dismiss others when they aptly illustrate me as an idiot. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #220

You again miss the point DainBramaged Jan 2013 #222

I drove station wagons which hold a shitload VERY comfortably. Without endangering other drivers. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #57

How many station wagons are there now that don't cost a forutne you can afford? DainBramaged Jan 2013 #65

Do they even make station wagons anymore? nick of time Jan 2013 #68

They ain't like what you think they are DainBramaged Jan 2013 #97

Auto makers stopped making station wagons in favor of SUVs baldguy Jan 2013 #195

Thank you for the info. nt. nick of time Jan 2013 #210

CAFE standards and the chicken tax discourage the production of large station wagons JVS Jan 2013 #208

Thanks for the info. nt. nick of time Jan 2013 #209

Thanks so very much for this information. It explains so much. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #226

Wow, a 1 second google search finds quite a few. But don't let facts get in the way of your fail. we can do it Jan 2013 #92

(sigh) $26,000 to $36 000, that's afforadable you bet DainBramaged Jan 2013 #94

Compared to big SUVs? Yes, they are. Is your google broke? $28,995 - $116,925 we can do it Jan 2013 #105

We own an SUV too, Worried senior Jan 2013 #59

Ever heard of a trailer? tabasco Jan 2013 #95

You folks ain't changing America's driving or buying habits for the next 50 years DainBramaged Jan 2013 #98

Spoken like someone with their head truly in the sand about climate change muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #200

This message was self-deleted by its author DainBramaged Jan 2013 #204

If you don't think DU makes a difference, and think we shouldn't live other people's lives muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #216

This message was self-deleted by its author DainBramaged Jan 2013 #217

Go bother someone else DainBramaged Jan 2013 #218

Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) says cars are safer (2013) we can do it Jan 2013 #126

Thanks! Taverner Jan 2013 #157

No problem, glad to help! I'm big on safety myself. we can do it Jan 2013 #158

Her FACTS are exactly correct. SUV's were intentionally marketed this way. INTENTIONALLY. I've poste KittyWampus Jan 2013 #50

Links please DainBramaged Jan 2013 #70

Generalize much? guardian Jan 2013 #82

Husbands buy big SUVs because of their small penises. Not because they are safe. we can do it Jan 2013 #69

And people make comments like that who have small brains DainBramaged Jan 2013 #71

Oh now I'm going to have to call the waaaambulance. It's big I'll be safe. we can do it Jan 2013 #72

+1000. nt. nick of time Jan 2013 #73

Fail. zappaman Jan 2013 #172

The desire of the SUV driver is to be big and strong - and intimidating. we can do it Jan 2013 #87

Did you even bother to read what you've posted? baldguy Jan 2013 #111

These are exactly the kind of people who need their "toys" taken away. we can do it Jan 2013 #120

Another Union basher.... DainBramaged Jan 2013 #148

How is any of this even remotely union bashing? we can do it Jan 2013 #152

Non sequiturs all around. baldguy Jan 2013 #173

I know laundry_queen Jan 2013 #187

Same here, but pretty equal between sexes, they are rarely dirty, let alone muddy. we can do it Jan 2013 #196

accusations of union bashing are the last refuge of the left wing scoundrel muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #201

A friend PasadenaTrudy Jan 2013 #5

I think you friend cculd be compensating too .. srican69 Jan 2013 #7

Possibly.. PasadenaTrudy Jan 2013 #11

And there it is, nick of time Jan 2013 #13

First SUVs, then AR-15s (something "peer-reviewed?"), then [bada-BOOM] com-pen-sa-ting! nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #36

It was so predictable. nt, nick of time Jan 2013 #37

When controllers speak of "predictability," that means they are about to relieve their load. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #42

Hit a nerve, huh? Zoeisright Jan 2013 #188

Nope, not at all. nick of time Jan 2013 #206

I'm not that short dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #14

That pretty much makes the OP's point we can do it Jan 2013 #117

We'd all be able to see better if their over-sized asses would get out of the way. we can do it Jan 2013 #175

Kind of a strange disconnect in your OP Union Scribe Jan 2013 #8

Subconscious emotion is a powerful thing The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #15

Given the compensating, reptilian peer-reviews, psychology should meld with shamanism. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #38

We need to understand them only for the purpose of devising more personal insults. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #74

I have an SUV because it's perfectly suited for farm work nick of time Jan 2013 #9

I thought pickup trucks were perfectly suited for farm work? Taverner Jan 2013 #16

The pick ups are for the my 3 employees. nick of time Jan 2013 #18

Ahhh gotchya Taverner Jan 2013 #19

The Expedition has maybe 8 inches of ground clearance Mosby Jan 2013 #44

The clearance on most SUVs is a myth ... kwassa Jan 2013 #49

Nothin' says I'm the boss like leather seats and 10 mpg and seating for 12 we can do it Jan 2013 #124

What about a family of 12? What are they supposed to do, walk? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #130

Uphill both ways in a blizzard with their AR197.6s or what evers? we can do it Jan 2013 #135

Bye bye. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #138

Does anyone know what the Duggarmobile looks like? JVS Jan 2013 #212

That's right. nick of time Jan 2013 #144

HA! we can do it Jan 2013 #145

They are, but the small ones were replaced by SUV which are a heck nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #91

Yeah - Chevy Luvs weren't that stable... Taverner Jan 2013 #109

you may have a perfectly valid reason to buy an SUV and an AR-15 sir .. srican69 Jan 2013 #25

That's fair enough. nick of time Jan 2013 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author we can do it Jan 2013 #139

Fixed it. nick of time Jan 2013 #146

no problem I will delete the other one we can do it Jan 2013 #147

True...we have to drown out the voices of the extremes from both sides...n/t Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #55

We use a pick up for farm work. How does shoveling manure into your SUV work? KittyWampus Jan 2013 #58

I also have 2 pick ups that my employees use for that kind of hauling. nick of time Jan 2013 #61

I have an SUV cuz it is hard to get through 6+" of snow in the mountains in a car Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #17

The Scandanavian's seem to do alright with Volvo's and Saab's GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #83

You are making WAY too much sense for this conversation. we can do it Jan 2013 #90

This thread is reading more like a SNL skit!!! All we need now are the visuals!!! LOL RKP5637 Jan 2013 #112

And a song........ we can do it Jan 2013 #119

Socialists who pay to plow the roads. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #127

My SUV gets better mileage than an XC90 so you want me to get a vehicle that uses more gas? Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #194

My 2000 Saab 9-3 gets 22 in town 35 highway. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #202

So you stab your working brothers and sisters in the back, and buy a non US union made car Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #203

Saab was owned by GM at the time. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #214

I know me first, I got it the first time Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #215

Are you always this charming? GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #223

Just very direct, sorry if you don't approve Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #224

I'm sure you are. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #225

Ernesto Jan 2013 #22

here ya go! Ernesto Jan 2013 #26

He, he..., but don't forget that in places like cupcake land that's bragging rights for women too. patrice Jan 2013 #31

Or it's what they learned on One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #29

Don't have a SUV, but have an extended cab pickup - lynne Jan 2013 #32

fortune 500 companies flock to him to pay millions of dollars .. you still think he needs to get out srican69 Jan 2013 #33

You equate money to common sense? lynne Jan 2013 #35

I think they called it The Hidden Persuaders back in da 50s. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #40

My 2WD Ford F250 extendo cab diesel gets 30 MPG on the highway. Ernesto Jan 2013 #45

not just AR15 Locrian Jan 2013 #41

That is the truth laundry_queen Jan 2013 #189

SUVs mean that you'll survive a crash with a smaller vehicle, it's a kind of bullying flamingdem Jan 2013 #43

Trucks are useful. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #46

Guess you didn't hear: SUV drivers are less likely to die in a crash. REP Jan 2013 #47

No they are not we can do it Jan 2013 #75

Go play with your itty bitty imporred car DainBramaged Jan 2013 #101

What is imporred? we can do it Jan 2013 #132

Like the article says, Electronic Stability Control Major Nikon Jan 2013 #182

Pit bull owners as well michigandem58 Jan 2013 #48

Itty bitty dicks? NV Whino Jan 2013 #51

I guess that could be since I mostly see women driving SUVs... NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #60

Yeah, but do they have big guns in the rear window? NV Whino Jan 2013 #78

I can't tell. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #79

! NV Whino Jan 2013 #134

touche raidert05 Jan 2013 #162

Ever drive by a fast food joint? The drive thru's full of dudes in SUVs most of the time. we can do it Jan 2013 #159

No. I don't drive by them much NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #160

Funny, they have the opposite effect on me, I am flung out of orbit unless sucked into a milkshake.. we can do it Jan 2013 #161

It NEVER fails, people have a personal bone to pick with SUV's so DU is the bashing grounds DainBramaged Jan 2013 #67

small penises. Kip Humphrey Jan 2013 #76

Thoughtless, shallow pseudo mass mind-reading post is thoughtless and shallow slackmaster Jan 2013 #84

Good points. Rock on. n/t guardian Jan 2013 #86

Probably from the same place the pencil went! whistler162 Jan 2013 #125

substitute for a penis? lastlib Jan 2013 #88

I think like a dozen people have beaten you to that canard. Union Scribe Jan 2013 #198

Ok, explain those of us who need the ground clearance nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #89

You are talking to people who think they are smarter than the rest of us DainBramaged Jan 2013 #93

Well, we bought a 2004 Jeep nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #107

Not that many people buy them quaker bill Jan 2013 #96

They're popular because they're small, light, and low-powered Recursion Jan 2013 #116

loose vaginas and small tits The Straight Story Jan 2013 #100

Well said DainBramaged Jan 2013 #102

LOL - add the pics! RKP5637 Jan 2013 #113

ROFL!! darkangel218 Jan 2013 #118

You spelled it correctly, try again. we can do it Jan 2013 #141

His name is Dr. Clotaire Rapaille Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #106

So im a "gun totting reptile because i drive an SUV?? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #110

Wow, I learn something new on DU everyday. justanidea Jan 2013 #115

The OP does say "Huge SUVs" - I don't think Wranglers are huge. we can do it Jan 2013 #165

Is that you, mayor Bloomberg?? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #121

It seems they both have the "I am more important than everyone else" attitude. we can do it Jan 2013 #129

And for those of you who equate small penises with driving SUV's DainBramaged Jan 2013 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #133

To be fair, some of us just have no place to go. bluedigger Jan 2013 #137

Awesome picture. nick of time Jan 2013 #151

In the mountains between Ouray and Telluride, Colorado. bluedigger Jan 2013 #153

Thanks. nick of time Jan 2013 #154

Okay, one more. bluedigger Jan 2013 #155

Whole different perspective. nick of time Jan 2013 #156

So, like SUVs, AR15s are LESS safe than other models, despite accounting for <3% of gun homicide? nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #142

I have a huge SUV...no husband,kids or dogs.. HipChick Jan 2013 #143

I had a huge SUV . . . and a Golden Retriever, no kids, no husband. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #205

Chomp! dawg Jan 2013 #211

So women driving SUv's are reptiles with itty bitty penises? DainBramaged Jan 2013 #149

Wo men recepticles of tiny penises beware!!!1111!!! I;m series1 we can do it Jan 2013 #174

People also bought them as an alternative to a minivan. krispos42 Jan 2013 #150

LOL Remmah2 Jan 2013 #163

So they don't get stuck in the snow? crazyjoe Jan 2013 #164

People who are obsessed with the correlation of penis size and personal possessions sylvi Jan 2013 #166

...or small minds Major Nikon Jan 2013 #183

I'm going to call it RODWIN'S LAW... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #185

"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." JVS Jan 2013 #213

Yeah, that's pretty obvious tabasco Jan 2013 #168

it isn't that deep for me. Algebra Palin Jan 2013 #169

Oh, Man, you guys crack me up Adam-Bomb Jan 2013 #177

Welcome to DU. Hope you've got more going than gats 'n guzzlers... VOX Jan 2013 #184

Your message is lost in the weeds Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #178

Status symbol. Shows their income level. freshwest Jan 2013 #186

These comparisons work to a very limited extent fujiyama Jan 2013 #190

the reason is.....GROUPTHINK!!! yay narrow-minded insulting fools who can't read! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #207

My guess is that like other commodities, Madison Avenue has done a bang-up job LanternWaste Jan 2013 #219