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11. This has reached nightmarish proportions in the UK

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:37 AM

Jan 2013

The Government, especially Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan-Smith, are obsessed with kicking people off disability benefits, and forcing people to 'prove' that they are genuinely disabled. One of the main organizations that they are using to test claimants' 'genuineness' is ATOS, which has been shown not be at all fit for purpose. A number of people have been declared 'not disabled' or 'fit for work' despite the fact that they were terminally ill, and died shortly afterwards.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/30/sick-disabled-work-benefits-programme

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19437785

The tabloids, especially the Daily Mail, have been carrying out a vicious campaign against 'fraudulent' disability claimants (despite the fact that benefit fraud is much less common and costly than tax fraud, and that only a tiny proportion of benefit fraudsters are false disability claimants - most are people who claim the dole while also working). This has contributed to the recent increase in hate-crimes against disabled people:

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/daily-mail-kicks-disabled-again.html

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Latest Pathetic Conservative Attack on Social Security: Disability Fraud Hysteria [View all] xchrom Jan 2013 OP

A friend of mine is an SSDI lawyer Recursion Jan 2013 #1

This is just complete bullshit Glitterati Jan 2013 #6

That's a lot of hostility for agreeing with me Recursion Jan 2013 #8

Not agreeing with you for one second! Glitterati Jan 2013 #9

Breathe Recursion Jan 2013 #12

Again, calling bullshit on you Glitterati Jan 2013 #15

Then why do people die waiting for it? (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #19

Ummmmm, because they're SICK? Glitterati Jan 2013 #21

Look, so far I've agreed with everything you said Recursion Jan 2013 #27

Yeah, I bet you are Glitterati Jan 2013 #31

I think your anger is misdirected rbixby Jan 2013 #88

OK Glitterati Jan 2013 #90

+1 "Your (Glitteri) anger is misdirected" kickysnana Jan 2013 #105

Awwww, thank you Glitterati Jan 2013 #106

+2 "Your (Glitteri) anger is misdirected" Hekate Jan 2013 #116

More bullshit Glitterati Jan 2013 #14

Can you slow down and read what I'm saying? Recursion Jan 2013 #17

Because that's NOT what I'm saying Glitterati Jan 2013 #20

Two posts up you're saying "people die waiting for SS" Recursion Jan 2013 #24

Oh, I see Glitterati Jan 2013 #29

As I said in that first post you attacked without reading, disability scammers are mythical Recursion Jan 2013 #40

Trust me, honey, I read every word Glitterati Jan 2013 #45

Well, if I had known my friend back then I would have asked her Recursion Jan 2013 #49

It took me a two years to be approved for disability for MS Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #109

"Trust me", you are being exceptionally hostile for no reason Hekate Jan 2013 #118

I did take a break Glitterati Jan 2013 #126

That is not what you wrote! You wrote one can "find"--as in, FAKE--by "wearing WinkyDink Jan 2013 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author Glitterati Jan 2013 #125

Actually, I believe that SS dotymed Jan 2013 #79

As was explained to us Glitterati Jan 2013 #81

They did this to me too. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #110

Your lawyer appears to be incredibly calloused to the needs of those who can no longer work.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #39

Which part of "this rarely happens" set you off, I wonder? Recursion Jan 2013 #42

You wrote your post....you live with it. nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #43

You wrote your post....you live with it. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #51

Thanks for your insight. Your concern is duly noted and filed. nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #53

Good. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #54

Ah, yes...the old "alleviate hysteria" flame.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #94

It's really funny Glitterati Jan 2013 #95

called out the army for defense. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #100

ROFL, yeah OK Glitterati Jan 2013 #101

Who to support? Hmmmm..... AlbertCat Jan 2013 #98

Thank you! Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2013 #55

In retrospect, my post was badly written Recursion Jan 2013 #59

In retrospect, my post was badly written AlbertCat Jan 2013 #65

I understood your post. Kencorburn Jan 2013 #68

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Friends and lawyers are non sequitur in my opinion having dealt with lawyers most of my plethoro Jan 2013 #56

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no, thats not what plethoro said. Kencorburn Jan 2013 #74

Yet again, generalizations that are not true Glitterati Jan 2013 #77

........ Kencorburn Jan 2013 #84

That proves nothing Glitterati Jan 2013 #86

I have no point, Kencorburn Jan 2013 #91

But it doesn't expedite the process Glitterati Jan 2013 #93

I didn't say that they actually expedite Kencorburn Jan 2013 #96

Sadly Glitterati Jan 2013 #97

The funny part is, Kencorburn Jan 2013 #102

Aha! Someone gave you a case file, huh? Glitterati Jan 2013 #104

you don't have to, Kencorburn Jan 2013 #108

I am not suggesting anything. I am telling you point-blank that obtaining plethoro Jan 2013 #76

Again, generalizations that are not true Glitterati Jan 2013 #78

Sorry if some of us are skeptical. duffyduff Jan 2013 #114

Why do you call "agreeing with me" "skeptical"? Recursion Jan 2013 #121

lack of reading comprehension, perhaps? there's like 3 people going off on you unhinged... dionysus Jan 2013 #124

I used to work for Social Security. randome Jan 2013 #2

The argument seems to be made that you can "game" the system if you have the right attorneys duffyduff Jan 2013 #115

Tell that to my friend who only gets $789 a month Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #3

disability takes a long time to be approved madrchsod Jan 2013 #4

Disability is NEVER approved the first time meow2u3 Jan 2013 #62

Never say never Glitterati Jan 2013 #67

I stand corrected. Disability is seldom approved the first time meow2u3 Jan 2013 #71

ROFL, red as you Glitterati Jan 2013 #75

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Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit Glitterati Jan 2013 #7

BULLSHIT????????? sorefeet Jan 2013 #16

Yes, BULLSHIT Glitterati Jan 2013 #18

3 months? DUgosh Jan 2013 #47

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you're not very believable. nt xchrom Jan 2013 #13

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Yeah, you do that Glitterati Jan 2013 #28

You're Frank Gallagher, aren't you? Z_I_Peevey Jan 2013 #46

It is way too easy if you know what you are doing and have patience. Soundman Jan 2013 #66

It is NOT easy. Under any circumstance Glitterati Jan 2013 #70

You are partially right. Kencorburn Jan 2013 #80

Well..........unless.... Glitterati Jan 2013 #82

And it has to be recent, too. Yours truly can't qualify for SSDI because of it. duffyduff Jan 2013 #117

What I am saying is a fact. Soundman Jan 2013 #83

There wasn't a single provable fact in your post Glitterati Jan 2013 #85

Well I suppose I could name names. Soundman Jan 2013 #92

Well aren't you special.. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #127

He's really working hard on that "Welfare Queen" story isn't he? Glitterati Jan 2013 #23

y'know, this one time, I saw a black lady get out of a Cadillac and buy junk food with food stamps! KG Jan 2013 #25

i know a guy - who knew this other guy - who knew this guy xchrom Jan 2013 #32

Uh uh.......you forgot Glitterati Jan 2013 #33

And in another thread... MindPilot Jan 2013 #35

And liquor and a birthday cake, too Hekate Jan 2013 #120

Have you considered moving? You seem to have somehow located in a nest of thieves and vipers Fumesucker Jan 2013 #26

You just happen to know all these people scamming SSDI MindPilot Jan 2013 #30

Explain why its so quick and easy for scammers and why it takes so long and is so difficult ..... marble falls Jan 2013 #34

Lol you sure do know a lot of scammers! Union Scribe Jan 2013 #37

This has reached nightmarish proportions in the UK LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #11

I'm thinking for the most part, the only people who have a chance 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #36

Even your story liberalmike27 Jan 2013 #57

I said I didn't know if he was faking or not 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #60

"The economy is struggling due to neoconservative policies . . . gollygee Jan 2013 #38

Let's separate the issues, please Glitterati Jan 2013 #41

Ah, could be gollygee Jan 2013 #48

Yeah, I think so Glitterati Jan 2013 #50

There has to be an "other" loyalsister Jan 2013 #44

This is a wonderful catch littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #52

My local AM radio morning knuckleheads mentioned this yesterday morning. sadbear Jan 2013 #58

Yes, it's the new meme Glitterati Jan 2013 #61

The equivalent started two and a half years ago in the UK LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #99

Actually, I think it's more Glitterati Jan 2013 #103

Isn't am morning radio libodem Jan 2013 #63

Mine aren't that bad, but they do tend to pander to the area's lowest common denominator. sadbear Jan 2013 #69

I used to listen to Coast to Coast at night libodem Jan 2013 #113

It took 2 years for my Mom to get SSDI after she was crushed in an auto accident DebJ Jan 2013 #73

As usual, California was a bit ahead of its time KamaAina Jan 2013 #107

If republicans hadn't cut jobs that use to B Calm Jan 2013 #111

One of my best friends is a Disability King. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #112

Why Do You Call Him otohara Jan 2013 #123

It's Good To Be King otohara Jan 2013 #130

Thankfully, my son's SSDI was relatively easy to get. It took a few months for the paperwork Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #128

I had a friend with severe physical and mental disabities. s-cubed Jan 2013 #129