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freshwest

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6. I think you know the answer. Look at the two-tier societies in Latin America.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:37 AM
Jan 2012

Their middle class was being wiped out just before NAFTA by the same forces demanding it and all the others be signed. They were seeing what we've been seeing, that upward mobility from education was no longer working. Many with college degrees had to leave behind their careers to come here and do menial labor to support their families. It was a myth that those immigrants were stupid peasants, just as is being claimed about the Chinese and Americans now.

When Reagan signed for amnesty for those who'd fled north to the USA from Mexico, it was beginning of a flood. Because things did not get any better. When I was teenager, Mexico was a fairly decent place to live with a middle class. And those of us in America were living in a highly regulated economy which gave us the freedom to speak out minds and demand better.

When Reagan removed those regulations, and the manufacturing base was sold off, that great theft began under the blinders of rightwing religion and appealing to bigotry of all kinds. Not that those getting rich in those days cared, it was put out for the stupid voters always willing to stab their breathren in the back. Americans were programmed to destroy the country.

Business and wealth has never seen a national boundary, resource or person it respected more than its abililty to make a quick buck. So you can see where we're headed if Americans don't vote the repigs out of office and replace them with progressives.

But no one seems to have any interest in doing that because they think that bitching is going to change things.


Some of us called BS when Clinton pushed NAFTA upi402 Jan 2012 #1
+1 russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #2
Clinton signed NAFTA into Law but he certainly did not push it.. Bandit Jan 2012 #19
Oh yes he did! He pushed it majorly. Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #27
Then you were about ten years too late calling BS then NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #20
+25K lonestarnot Jan 2012 #33
Everything is made by slaves who are even more enslaved than 19th century slaves. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #3
Agree with first paragraph, not the second. They will be motivated, believing it's a good thing. freshwest Jan 2012 #30
I mean "fail" as "really trying and failing." 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2012 #31
Still having trouble understanding your meanings, but the MIC is in place is what I mean. freshwest Jan 2012 #32
Everyone made fun of him and said he was crazy but doc03 Jan 2012 #4
The media whacked Perot out. And Gore finished him off on Larry King. upi402 Jan 2012 #7
Corporatists were terrified of Perot's view on trade. Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #28
The continent of Africa has yet to be exploited xchrom Jan 2012 #5
Yes, but there's already far less U.S. money to buy those goods... DCKit Jan 2012 #8
Indeed. Nt xchrom Jan 2012 #13
I think you know the answer. Look at the two-tier societies in Latin America. freshwest Jan 2012 #6
Well said. snagglepuss Jan 2012 #11
I've both bitched and supported Democrats in every election jpgray Jan 2012 #18
I didn't say bitching wasn't in order. Solutions are what are needed, not despair. freshwest Jan 2012 #23
Debt kept this economy on life support for over 20 years Warpy Jan 2012 #9
I watched a video earlier about the unseen China. Reading your post, I am reminded of a comment made snagglepuss Jan 2012 #10
Very good addition here. I suggest David Korten's videos and stories from the online magazine YES... freshwest Jan 2012 #12
+1 Yes to YES Magazine! BrendaBrick Jan 2012 #21
I can post some Korten videos for you if you want, he's got solutions. freshwest Jan 2012 #22
Sure! BrendaBrick Jan 2012 #25
I'll figure out how to make a thread of them and send you a link. freshwest Jan 2012 #29
a kinder, gentler feudalism eShirl Jan 2012 #14
Here we go again. All of our problems are due to trade with those evil poor foreigners. pampango Jan 2012 #15
How do you see this as blaming labor, poorer nations or immigrants? jpgray Jan 2012 #16
Did you reply to the wrong thread? eShirl Jan 2012 #17
I believe two disconnections must be made: Ron Green Jan 2012 #24
Where did the DU free trader squad go? Zalatix Jan 2012 #26
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