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29. Admittedly, John Ross was hesitant to side with the Confederacy

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:43 AM

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and there were many in his tribe who wanted to remain neutral. And Southern forces did attack Indians who sided with the Union. So it was a very difficult situation for the various Okalahoma tribes.

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Why is Southern History so Romanticized? [View all] BrentWil Jan 2012 OP

Well, the North is pretty romanticized, too. TygrBright Jan 2012 #1

A lot of that is simply forgotten history by everyone BrentWil Jan 2012 #4

I think the genocide of first Americans is right up there with slavery. Lots of that up north. n/t TygrBright Jan 2012 #10

I agree with that NT BrentWil Jan 2012 #11

After the North defeated the South, the Union Army focused on subduing Native Americans Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #23

Military force both Southern and Northern was used against Native Americans before the war BrentWil Jan 2012 #24

Before the war, the Southern military force was under Federal command Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #26

Native Americans had a long history of thinking Europeans would keep their words.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #27

Admittedly, John Ross was hesitant to side with the Confederacy Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #29

Do you have a theory? grasswire Jan 2012 #2

Yes... BrentWil Jan 2012 #3

I think you're on to something. hifiguy Jan 2012 #38

Now hold on a second... antigone382 Jan 2012 #53

The Radical Republicans in the Senate wanted policies that President Johnson did not enforce... BrentWil Jan 2012 #56

Interesting that desertion was such a huge problem for the south. brewens Jan 2012 #5

One of the most forgotten things is US Soldiers that were from the South.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #7

Why is America so romanticized? The Straight Story Jan 2012 #6

I think you have to see things in relation to the past BrentWil Jan 2012 #9

I'm pretty confident at least as much brutality goes into our goods today as in the past. antigone382 Jan 2012 #54

partly because the South lost, part of it is cultural, you might get the same romantiicism JI7 Jan 2012 #8

A couple books you might want to check out, if you have coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #12

THanks... BrentWil Jan 2012 #22

Having lived in Savannah for twenty-five years, I can tell you ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #13

"radical republicans stood for freedom and equality" Zorra Jan 2012 #14

black Southerners don't romanticize its history; only white Southerners do. provis99 Jan 2012 #15

Black southerners might not venerate the racist past of the south RZM Jan 2012 #17

I know.. I just didn't think putting White in the title would be smart BrentWil Jan 2012 #20

Considering the frequency that many non-southerners attempt to rub our noses in "our" history... piedmont Jan 2012 #16

Well, I am southern... BrentWil Jan 2012 #19

For some reason there's always going to be a yearning for the "good old days" in any population... piedmont Jan 2012 #25

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Gone With The Wind dogknob Jan 2012 #18

Considering They Got Their Asses Kicked... I Don't Know... WillyT Jan 2012 #21

Here's a great article on the topic just1voice Jan 2012 #28

I can't figure out if this thread is really about storytelling or about idealization. EFerrari Jan 2012 #30

Attention all Southerners reading this thread: Aristus Jan 2012 #31

We have a number of stories we tell about different parts of the country. EFerrari Jan 2012 #32

Have I told you lately how wonderful you are? Ishoutandscream2 Jan 2012 #37

I agree with you that every distinct region in the country Aristus Jan 2012 #46

You are right about that to a degree. I don't want to minimize EFerrari Jan 2012 #47

I was going to chime in at your first post to say that California history was DEFINITELY whitewashed XemaSab Jan 2012 #49

I believe the unit now does discuss the enslavement of the native people REP Jan 2012 #58

Given that I utilize the fact I'm a "Southern belle" for work quite often.... moriah Jan 2012 #33

I did a lot of sales in the South... Taverner Jan 2012 #45

Those are the kind of manners I was brought up with in the North REP Jan 2012 #59

Americans tend to romanticize a lot of history The Genealogist Jan 2012 #34

It's not hard to find those who have romanticized the 60's either. n/t hughee99 Jan 2012 #43

4 words ... GONE WITH THE WIND Raine Jan 2012 #35

Outhouses? HopeHoops Jan 2012 #36

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Because they lost. GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #40

On a related topic about history in general BrendaBrick Jan 2012 #41

Very interesting.... BrentWil Jan 2012 #48

yep. bottom line n/t BrendaBrick Jan 2012 #57

American history is romanticized in general. MNBrewer Jan 2012 #42

To such an extent XemaSab Jan 2012 #50

History should never be "taught" BrentWil Jan 2012 #55

All history is, to a certain degree BrentWil Jan 2012 #61

I was thinking about this earlier XemaSab Jan 2012 #62

Often people reinvent things they should be ashamed of... Taverner Jan 2012 #44

Read Tony Horowitz' Confederates in the Attic 1gobluedem Jan 2012 #51

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aren't you really asking why do so many southerners romanticize the civil war? arely staircase Jan 2012 #60

A lot of Southern culture comes from the slave populations and subsequent freed slaves Major Nikon Jan 2012 #63

It's all those Walter Scott wannabes Tom Ripley Jan 2012 #65

Outstanding Post! aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #66

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In honor of a very good move.. bump. NT BrentWil Nov 2012 #68