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WilmywoodNCparalegal

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74. A couple of responses
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

First of all, in my position I am responsible for knowing where anyone who possesses a visa for which the company serves as the petitioner is, is going or not going. Everything that is signed under the company's name is signed under penalty of perjury. I take that responsibility seriously and I do not tolerate any fraud or misrepresentation. So, yes, I do know the comings and goings of all these employees. I know how much they earn, when their visas run out, what their job offer letter looks like, what their qualifications are, etc. I also have access to payroll so I can check at any time to ensure they are indeed paid properly.

If an H-1B systems administrator is paid $30K, then - unless the employer is committing fraud - that wage will be at least equal to the prevailing wage. The DOL determines that wage - not the employer or an attorney or anyone like me. The prevailing wage is widely accessible to anyone online. If a person believes the prevailing wage determined by DOL is bunk, then DOL needs to be contacted and complaints need to be directed at them, not the foreign national or the H-1B visa or USCIS or the employer.

Again, there is no advertising in connection with the H-1B if the employer is not H-1B dependent or a willful violator. There are headhunters that advertise H-1B sponsorship for candidates. However, USCIS has severely curtailed the activities of third-party petitioners such as headhunters and outfits like Tata, Infosys, et al. I'm not sure why they are contacting you, but I also get headhunters calling me for crazy positions in Alaska or even Canada all the time, though I'm not going anywhere. In any event, the regulations for H-1Bs are clear. There is no advertisement requirement for H-1Bs, unlike the PERM.

I think that the situation you are describing is for an H-1B-dependent employer and/or willful violator. H-1B dependent employers and/or willful violators are those outfits that employ a great percentage of H-1B visa holders (over 15% of the workforce) or that have violated H-1B regulations These emplooyers must make additional attestations to the DOL. They are required to pay extra fees and are required to demonstrate that they have recruited U.S. and other authorized workers. This is probably what happened. If that's the case, these are employers and agencies I'd avoid at all costs. A legitimate employer will not be H-1B dependent or a willful violator.

As for job duties, I think that I fall in the category of 'I do much more than what's in the job description.' It happens frequently and not just for visa holders. However, in many companies, people like me have access and control over job descriptions. I also talk to foreign nationals and I do ask how things are going. As I mentioned previously, being an immigrant myself I do not tolerate anyone who takes advantage of any worker - regardless of immigration status.

As for the performance issue, in many cases the person who made the hiring decision and was aware of the immigration status of the applicant is not usually the one in charge of reviewing performance at my employer. In most cases, there are more than one person who review performance for a single employee.

I also want to clarify that I don't work in an IT company, but we do have a few IT divisions since we have quite a large scope of business (without going into specifics).

I have also worked at an IT company - in fact, one of the biggest and best known ones. I don't remember how performance was evaluated then.

I am not saying fraud doesn't exist or that the system is perfect and error-free... au contraire. But I do think that sometimes we are missing the biggest culprit of visa fraud by concentrating on the H-1B. What is the biggest culprit, you ask?

In my professional opinion, there is no greater culprit than the L-1B visa. It has no cap, no restrictions, no prevailing wage requirements, no education requirements, etc. All you have to ensure is that the employee must have worked at an overseas branch or subsidiary or HQ or affiliate for at least a year within the past 3 years and that s/he must possess 'specialized knowledge' which is rather vague.

The L-1B visa is where I have seen lots of abuses with my own eyes. I have seen the deplorable conditions in which lots of L-1B workers lived. The Jersey City, NJ, waterfront apartments are full of these workers.

In the end, if you do see any instance where any visa is being utilized poorly or fraudulently or if you suspect anything wrong, please please please contact USCIS or ICE or DOL. They do take that stuff seriously, in great part thanks to Obama's compliance and enforcement efforts. The only way we can make the system better is by finding those who abuse it.

Sorry, lots of 'chaff'.. or what I call my paycheck

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It's not about helping us. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #1
very sad still_one Jan 2013 #2
Yep Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #4
sorry, not corporations introducing this bill. it's dems and repubs in congress nt msongs Jan 2013 #11
Correct. On whose behalf do you suppose this little provision was introduced?? MrSlayer Jan 2013 #12
who exactly do you think they work for? Skittles Jan 2013 #13
That's adorable. nt Union Scribe Jan 2013 #14
the dems and pubs are bribed to introduce it. yes, bribed, because our system is one of legal HiPointDem Jan 2013 #18
"...the corporations write the bills, the legislators sign them..." KansDem Jan 2013 #53
Dems and Repubs bowing to their corporate overlords n/t OhioChick Jan 2013 #50
Naive much? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #56
I agree....worked for EDS a few years ago Gin Jan 2013 #28
This. nt redqueen Jan 2013 #47
thanks for saving me the typing n/t Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #69
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+100000000000000 limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #78
It's always about the profits. Always. gateley Jan 2013 #85
you're absolutely right liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #90
It will help corporations make even MORE profits, which they will kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #3
It will help us by providing more low income service jobs for Americans. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #5
I want to see the undocumented workers get help, but I absolutely do not want to see JDPriestly Jan 2013 #6
I agree with you, my disappointment was the high tech job visa still_one Jan 2013 #7
I would like to see e-verify become mandatory for 3-4 years amandabeech Jan 2013 #41
It Is Like What I Posted In The Past ---- WAGE PARITY WITH THE THIRD WORLD TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #8
+100000 Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2013 #51
Then what keeps them in the USA? KansDem Jan 2013 #54
Ask anyone in the high tech field if more LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #9
I know. I am a software engineer and I agree still_one Jan 2013 #10
My software engineer husband was laid off from LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #35
Sounds a lot like my situation. After 20 plus years they let us go. I too found a job, but took a still_one Jan 2013 #65
My husband was 59 when he was let go. The ageism he encountered LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #87
Appreciate and understand what you are going through still_one Jan 2013 #88
if the Americans are unemployed hfojvt Jan 2013 #32
Well, those jobs aren't being offered to Americans. LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #34
Because the Americans will have other options jeff47 Jan 2013 #36
but if they do not have other options now hfojvt Jan 2013 #45
They don't have the option to get massively underpaid jeff47 Jan 2013 #66
Employees won't just leave unless the pay in their job and/or the working conditions are JDPriestly Jan 2013 #76
FFS, try reading. jeff47 Jan 2013 #82
But the interest in unemployed Americans in finding jobs should be more highly considered JDPriestly Jan 2013 #89
When there are or were plenty of jobs, H1-B visas were not such a controversial subject. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #75
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #15
This will make the RICH us ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #16
So, only lower paid workers should lose jobs to immigrants? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #17
as with everything, they start with those least able to defend themselves, with fewest allies, HiPointDem Jan 2013 #19
All immigrants are either children, retired/disabled or working age adults. If they are working age, pampango Jan 2013 #20
H1Bs aren't immigrants jeff47 Jan 2013 #21
I knew that but it is an important distinction, so thanks for pointing it out. pampango Jan 2013 #22
Which is why you chose to change the subject, I guess. Romulox Jan 2013 #26
From the poster I was responding to? pampango Jan 2013 #38
No. Not all immigrants should be low-paid workers. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #77
H-1Bs are non-immigrant visas that allow the holder to seek permanent residence WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2013 #24
You speak of theory. Here's how it works in reality jeff47 Jan 2013 #31
Response - lengthy WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2013 #46
Thank you for your post. MrYikes Jan 2013 #52
Your perspective is from an environment where people stay close to theory jeff47 Jan 2013 #68
A couple of responses WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2013 #74
unless the employer is committing fraud JDPriestly Jan 2013 #81
I'm well aware that there are penalties that are supposed to prevent fraud jeff47 Jan 2013 #86
The H1-B visas bring in people to fill jobs that Americans could be trained or are capable of doing. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #80
H1Bs are not cheap. athena Jan 2013 #49
They're cheaper than the alternative jeff47 Jan 2013 #67
There is no 'regular' visa that does not leave them at the whim of an employer WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2013 #70
Read your first damn 4 words jeff47 Jan 2013 #72
+1000 lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #57
What a ridiculous answer. TL;DNR version: "you gotta exploit SOMEBODY!". Romulox Jan 2013 #25
What does "TL;DNR version: you gotta exploit SOMEBODY!" mean? pampango Jan 2013 #33
Things change. earthside Jan 2013 #30
+1 area51 Jan 2013 #92
Still waiting for a *coherent* answer to this one. nt Romulox Jan 2013 #27
I don't think that you're going to get a coherent answer to any immigration amandabeech Jan 2013 #43
The story back when they were losing those jobs jeff47 Jan 2013 #39
Two reactions lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #58
The only "us" it helps are profiteers. ananda Jan 2013 #23
We call working class people "racists" for daring to ask this question. Why are white collar Romulox Jan 2013 #29
Good question. n/t amandabeech Jan 2013 #44
Heh. +1. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #59
H1Bs provide one of the few skilled labor pathways to citizenship in the United States ponsheki Jan 2013 #37
If you want to encourage such people to move here jeff47 Jan 2013 #40
Well said, jeff47. pampango Jan 2013 #48
That isn't what has been happening. There are plenty of highly skilled people here who want to work still_one Jan 2013 #61
There is a real shortage of EEs and MechEs Recursion Jan 2013 #71
H1-B visas take jobs from qualified Americans. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #83
Because they pay Social Security and Medicare taxes but don't receive benefits Recursion Jan 2013 #42
That is an interesting point, not necessarily fair to them still_one Jan 2013 #62
Not *remotely* fair to them Recursion Jan 2013 #63
Define "us". lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #55
Because skilled immigrants who earn good salaries buy cars, which helps car dealers. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #60
Skilled immigrants with regular visas who wait their turn can do that. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #84
An enormous group of engineers and scientists are in their later forties and fifties. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #64
It was even in the inauguration speech limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #79
It also creates a brain drain in developing countries LittleBlue Jan 2013 #91
K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #93
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