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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:00 AM Jan 2013

The devil, is as always, in the details. [View all]

Well, well, well. As the ACA slowly grinds to life, it is turning out that more and more major problems are being revealed. Never mind that the ACA gives the insurance industry a mandated monopoly, with regulations that are few and weak.

Now we're seeing all sorts of nasty little secrets come oozing out. Last week was the revelation that smokers could be paying thousands of dollars more in premiums. This week, we find out that there will be no federal financial assistance for those who can't afford family coverage offered by employers.

"The Obama administration adopted a strict definition of affordable health insurance on Wednesday that will deny federal financial assistance to millions of Americans with modest incomes who cannot afford family coverage offered by employers.

In deciding whether an employer’s health plan is affordable, the Internal Revenue Service said it would look at the cost of coverage only for an individual employee, not for a family. Family coverage might be prohibitively expensive, but federal subsidies would not be available to help buy insurance for children in the family.

The policy decision came in a final regulation interpreting ambiguous language in the 2010 health care law. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/31/us/politics/irs-to-base-insurance-affordability-on-single-coverage.html?ref=us&_r=0

Wonderful, so while a parent can get coverage for themselves, their kids have to go without? Just how fucked up is that?

Makes you wonder what else is going to come crawling out of the woodwork in the ensuing weeks and months.

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Just a question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #1
It's a big wide board. I suggest you focus on your own positive posts and leave off the personal Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #2
I have a couple suggestions for you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #3
What do you think about a worker's kid's unable to get coverage? Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #5
It's terrible for that subset of the population ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #11
My focus is on the least amongst us. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #17
The least among us won't be affected. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #47
That's a bogus figure Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #28
No, only 6% will be "forced" by law to purchase insurance. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #48
Today, perhaps. And the Patriot act will never be used for anything but catching terrorists. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #50
Really, equating the Patriot Act with a bill that will save lives? George Bush probably thanks you. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #51
aren't kids going to be able to get SCHIP? hfojvt Jan 2013 #24
it doesnt say they cant get coverage veganlush Jan 2013 #27
Literally, you don't. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #6
+1 leftstreet Jan 2013 #4
How is asking whether someone has ever posted anything positive 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #9
Why did you ask the question instead of addressing the point? Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #10
Because I wanted ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #14
Suspect? Oooo... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #19
see, you're SUSPICIOUS, LA Skittles Jan 2013 #35
"I have in my hand a list of 205 names of those who are suspect. . ." MadHound Jan 2013 #42
What's it got to do with the article? leftstreet Jan 2013 #13
Thanks for the guidance ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #15
CORRECT Skittles Jan 2013 #36
I have hfojvt Jan 2013 #25
Address the issue, Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #30
Do you ever address the issue when somebody criticizes presidential policy? MadHound Jan 2013 #39
DURec leftstreet Jan 2013 #7
And the alternative ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #16
The alternative is that I don't have to pay Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #32
That's not the alternative ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #58
No, the current state Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #60
Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #64
They can fix it later. forestpath Jan 2013 #8
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #12
Will they?? Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #18
They fixed NAFTA. Hahahahaha! Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #20
Yes they did Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #21
well as someone who pays $925 in insurance every month, THEY BETTER FIX IT FAST! liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #23
It's a Heritage Foundation idea. A republican law. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #22
+1000 dreamnightwind Jan 2013 #29
Agreed. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #31
For a few it's deliberate bellyaching; plenty of others are knee jerk... JHB Jan 2013 #38
Oh, my. Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #26
That kind of snark serves no purpose. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #34
Once again, failure to address the issue. Why is that? MadHound Jan 2013 #40
I believe I have addressed the issue Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #43
No, you have addressed what you would like the issue to be while ignoring the problem. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #52
No, that's what you wish the issue would be, MadHound Jan 2013 #53
Sorry, but Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #54
Again, this is your wishful thinking, MadHound Jan 2013 #55
... Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #56
Ah, yes, the Devil is indeed in the details Summer Hathaway Feb 2013 #57
and there you have it. dionysus Feb 2013 #62
Millions of Americans... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #33
and they are acting like this was a "glitch" Skittles Jan 2013 #37
Makes one wonder how many more "glitches" are going to be revealed in the upcoming months, MadHound Jan 2013 #41
any new program, especially of this magnitude, will have glitches Skittles Jan 2013 #45
The ACA is another boondoggle that we must now eliminate by taking Zorra Jan 2013 #44
Smokers are already charged more Recursion Jan 2013 #46
Gee, if only someone had warned us about where this would go... Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #49
That's insurance finance reform for you. Autumn Feb 2013 #59
K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #61
kick woo me with science Feb 2013 #63
This is not the final rule, and ProSense Feb 2013 #65
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