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63. The Va Tech shooter killed 32 people with handguns

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:43 AM

Jan 2013

a handgun has the same rate of fire as a rifle. A handgun holds 15 rounds and can be reloaded in a couple of seconds.

The Sandy Hook shooter reloaded multiple times - he didn't empty every magazine. Nobody stopped him.

Lanza stopped shooting between 9:46 a.m. and 9:49 a.m., after firing 50 to 100 rounds.[49] He reloaded frequently during the shooting, sometimes firing only fifteen rounds from a thirty round magazine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] paulbibeau Jan 2013 OP

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No assault weapon needed in any of these cases. n/t countingbluecars Jan 2013 #11

How about 4 armed attackers on one? iiibbb Jan 2013 #50

Has an assault weapon EVER saved lives? randome Jan 2013 #53

He's lucky those 4 armed attackers countingbluecars Jan 2013 #54

Which one of these women used an AR again? I know for a fact Nancy Lanza USED to own one. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #12

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You already did the heavy lifting for me. paulbibeau Jan 2013 #17

You left out my favorite... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #20

Who wouldn't? randome Jan 2013 #42

Which one was the assault rifle again? paulbibeau Jan 2013 #16

And you are totally right about the statistics... paulbibeau Jan 2013 #21

Actually handguns are "better" for that Recursion Jan 2013 #23

Somebody go tell Gayle Trotter that. She argued otherwise. paulbibeau Jan 2013 #38

1. She's an idiot. 2. She makes the exact same wrong argument AWB proponents do Recursion Jan 2013 #39

The writers on the National Review made a similar argument... paulbibeau Jan 2013 #41

The guy who I think made the most sense was that professor who talked after Mark Kelly Recursion Jan 2013 #44

I will check that out. paulbibeau Jan 2013 #46

None of the cases you cited involved an assault rifle Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #18

I posted one of a man defending his home from a robber with an AR-15 yesterday Recursion Jan 2013 #24

For openers... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #29

Well, let's stick with semi-automatics Recursion Jan 2013 #31

wow...I'm going to get flamed for this... ewagner Jan 2013 #48

Here's what we can do... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #65

Those are decent ideas Recursion Jan 2013 #99

Not bad ideas at all... ewagner Jan 2013 #102

Treat them the same as fully-automatic.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #104

You posted a story about a man invading a home with a BB gun! randome Jan 2013 #40

I don't know that any gun use is "heartwarming" Recursion Jan 2013 #43

No one is trying to leave people defenseless. randome Jan 2013 #45

The same can be said about mass killers and handguns hack89 Jan 2013 #52

No, a pistol would not have killed so many people in so short a time. randome Jan 2013 #56

A pistol killed *more* people at Virginia Tech in the same time period Recursion Jan 2013 #59

It's easier to kill a greater number of people in a short time frame with assault weapons. randome Jan 2013 #60

No, it's really not. Recursion Jan 2013 #62

It took the Virginia Tech shooter more than 2 hours to kill those people. randome Jan 2013 #67

Nope. Cho's rampage was about 9 minutes Recursion Jan 2013 #68

Fine. Some handguns are as good for mass murder as assault weapons. randome Jan 2013 #73

I've said nobody "needs" an AR-15 Recursion Jan 2013 #74

Not needing to reload is an advantage when committing mass murder. randome Jan 2013 #79

You know an AR-15 has magazines too, right? Recursion Jan 2013 #82

The odds of stopping someone who needs to reload frequently are better. randome Jan 2013 #94

Your point is valid but it has nothing to do with the AR-15: Recursion Jan 2013 #98

Thank God for Seung-Hui Cho Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #80

Rifles are used for mass shootings more often than they are for other types of crimes, I agree Recursion Jan 2013 #85

I knew I could count on you (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #87

There are other large body-count rampage killers who used only handguns. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #106

The Va Tech shooter killed 32 people with handguns hack89 Jan 2013 #63

And if he dropped his extra magazine while trying to reload it? randome Jan 2013 #76

Why are you talking about automatic weapons? hack89 Jan 2013 #78

I got my terms mixed up. Assault weapons, then. randome Jan 2013 #83

Why do you gloss over the Va Tech shootings? hack89 Jan 2013 #86

How can you deny the obvious? randome Jan 2013 #88

But that didn't happen at Sandy Hook or Va Tech hack89 Jan 2013 #89

I updated my post after you posted yours. randome Jan 2013 #90

And the Sandy Hook shooter reloaded several times hack89 Jan 2013 #91

We can't ignore handguns. We can't ban those. I recognize that. randome Jan 2013 #92

I have no problem with a magazine size limit hack89 Jan 2013 #93

Of course. And as you pointed out, mass murder can still occur. randome Jan 2013 #95

So can any semi-automatic Recursion Jan 2013 #55

As I said, we don't want a repeat of Sandy Hook. That's the base issue. randome Jan 2013 #58

This is simply false Recursion Jan 2013 #61

Why do the Navy SEALS use the M4? Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #69

Longer-range accuracy, which has not been a factor in any mass shooting since that guy in Texas Recursion Jan 2013 #71

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