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Fla_Democrat

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173. Ok, lets try this another way, see how dedicated you are..

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:05 PM

Feb 2013

Since fear of firearms is rational, and reasonable, could I get you to agree to random stops and searches to find illegal firearms? I understand people with firearms are a danger, and should be shot (according to the OP), how about monitored?

text: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

But, I am told it isn't unreasonable to fear fire arms, it isn't unreasonable to fear people with firearms. So, can you get behind trying to save people, by searching people at random? Think of the lives that could be saved, if police could just catch shooters, before they started shooting. How far, are you willing to go, to achieve your goals?

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Shoot everyone open carrying for implied threat. [View all] Whovian Feb 2013 OP

If I'm standing next to someone with an open carry weapon displayed, I'm going to be RKP5637 Feb 2013 #1

Yeah,it would freak me out and I would wonder how safe they are. libtodeath Feb 2013 #2

And if a restaurant, bar, business establishments, no way am I going to hang around. RKP5637 Feb 2013 #3

And I wouldn't go back either. tblue Feb 2013 #77

~*~*~*~* Who Who Whovian has LEFT the BUILDING!!!! ~*~*~*~* NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #344

They are certainly doing it as intimidation, although the yahoos are usually too stupid or callous Hoyt Feb 2013 #4

They are promoting fear. kentuck Feb 2013 #16

Exactly libtodeath Feb 2013 #20

It is. It's psychological abuse of some sort. tblue Feb 2013 #79

Agreed. Euphoria Feb 2013 #217

I want open carry, so I decide which public places I won't use. nt patrice Feb 2013 #29

K&R !!! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #32

I feel concealed-carry violates my right to self-determination of what's responsible behavior. nt patrice Feb 2013 #34

Yep, excellent point. I would much rather be next to an open-carry than a concealed-carry so RKP5637 Feb 2013 #41

I can't trust the purpose of a weapon that's hidden. That purpose could be ANYTHING. Open carry patrice Feb 2013 #49

OC doesn't make it clear to me it for protection. Sheepshank Feb 2013 #167

Thank You raidert05 Feb 2013 #184

If it is hidden how would you know? n/t doc03 Feb 2013 #216

I want neither. tblue Feb 2013 #80

I thought over the years we had become more civilized. All of this gun stuff is really RKP5637 Feb 2013 #94

You mean like the encouraging of shooting people doing what is nick of time Feb 2013 #95

That too! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #98

Thank you. nick of time Feb 2013 #99

Yep, you're welcome, and what you say is quite true! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #100

You never got the idea of sarcasm in grade school did you? Whovian Feb 2013 #197

Sorry, after reading your transparency page, nick of time Feb 2013 #202

I'll stand by every one of the posts you mention. Whovian Feb 2013 #231

If they were all within the bounds of civility, nick of time Feb 2013 #235

Did you read them? A hide takes three randomly selected peop;e Whovian Feb 2013 #254

Wrong. nick of time Feb 2013 #257

I think you mean your op was satire. It doesn't qualify as either cali Feb 2013 #224

While You are Absolutely Right About Your Self-Determination w/ Concealed Carry dballance Feb 2013 #88

Ian Stawicki is one who had a permit. Zimmerman had a permit. Loughner was legal. Hoyt Feb 2013 #131

Thanks for answering my question. dballance Feb 2013 #331

Given that there are literally millions of CCW permit holders... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #172

If many more were killed, you'd still need your guns. Hoyt Feb 2013 #334

Nope. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #337

^^^This^^^ nick of time Feb 2013 #342

100% agree. FLyellowdog Feb 2013 #51

Open Carry is not PC on DU. I have to wonder if concealed carry isn't contributing to the patrice Feb 2013 #63

Sure as hell isn't... bobclark86 Feb 2013 #147

Interesting thought rbixby Feb 2013 #151

Some states keep annual statistics. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #322

Are you talking about legal concealed carry or... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #241

If gun owners have a right to decisions about their security, don't non-gun owners have the patrice Feb 2013 #45

+1000 TeamPooka Feb 2013 #125

To me it's a sign of cowardice. Marr Feb 2013 #76

Agreement with you kairos12 Feb 2013 #210

+1 doc03 Feb 2013 #230

How do you feel about being surrounded by concealed weapons? Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #180

No way! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #189

Makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable also, nick of time Feb 2013 #193

I was in a store just the other day and started wondering who around me might be RKP5637 Feb 2013 #196

I sometimes wonder also, nick of time Feb 2013 #200

Yep, and that all makes perfectly good and responsible sense to me! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #256

That's how I feel too. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #310

And around here we get random shootings, someone just starts shooting someone ... or someone sitting RKP5637 Feb 2013 #314

I feel for you. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #327

I find it very unnerving... CherokeeDem Feb 2013 #258

I drive cross country sometimes, and I'm not picking on any state or anything, but sometimes RKP5637 Feb 2013 #296

That makes as much sense as "shoot everyone wearing gang colors for implied threat" onenote Feb 2013 #5

Yeah, 'cause a red jersey is just as dangerous as a Bushmaster... Aristus Feb 2013 #19

No. Because a gangbanger who may well have a concealed weapon onenote Feb 2013 #35

"...are pretty much bound to use it." Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #6

Rational, no. satyrical yes. Whovian Feb 2013 #201

Far be it from me to discriminate against satyrs. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #208

That's what SYG and Castle Laws are all about. jpak Feb 2013 #7

Worse. It's legalized lynching. onehandle Feb 2013 #13

And shooting someone for open carrying, nick of time Feb 2013 #17

In SYG states, if the shooter feels his/her life is threatened then it's OK jpak Feb 2013 #30

Bullshit. nick of time Feb 2013 #36

In Florida, carrying a box of Skittles and an Ice Tea is considered at threat jpak Feb 2013 #303

Once again, bullshit nick of time Feb 2013 #305

From what dime store did you get your law degree? onenote Feb 2013 #38

Yup. tblue Feb 2013 #83

Nope. nick of time Feb 2013 #85

So you want to stop gun HappyMe Feb 2013 #8

Hey, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Aristus Feb 2013 #23

You start dick punching someone open carrying nick of time Feb 2013 #31

If he is open carrying, PLARS1999 Feb 2013 #40

Good one. nick of time Feb 2013 #43

It's the fight violence with more violence meme that's all the rage! Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #24

sigh! HappyMe Feb 2013 #25

Mainly, he wants to stir up shit with OPs that he can then disown muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #56

Good grief! HappyMe Feb 2013 #61

I am very open to discussion. Whovian Feb 2013 #205

And it's people like you that make it so difficult nick of time Feb 2013 #209

Don't pretend this OP is 'open to discussion' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #283

This message was self-deleted by its author EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #9

Your society? nick of time Feb 2013 #14

You're right. I sometimes post before thinking. Deleted. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #86

Thank you. nick of time Feb 2013 #90

Lots of things are legal that are best not done. Hoyt Feb 2013 #140

While I agree with you that alot of things are legal that shouldn't be done. nick of time Feb 2013 #146

Well then, how do you feel about some yahoo who checks his gun before strapping it on when Hoyt Feb 2013 #155

No I don't believe they're even thinking about shooting someone. nick of time Feb 2013 #158

Ahh hell with it... sarisataka Feb 2013 #10

how are you going to shoot them... actslikeacarrot Feb 2013 #11

You want to shoot someone for doing something that is nick of time Feb 2013 #12

How about instead mokawanis Feb 2013 #18

I have no problem with that, nick of time Feb 2013 #21

Pretty wild that this makes sense to you. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #15

Reality doesn't always make sense. The point is: does this happen? nt patrice Feb 2013 #122

Does what happen? NCTraveler Feb 2013 #152

What are your thoughts about gang culture? nt patrice Feb 2013 #154

Love it. nt NCTraveler Feb 2013 #156

Too bad that can cost some people their lives, like the young inauguration participant killed the patrice Feb 2013 #174

Another deep thought from Whovian. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #22

+1 onenote Feb 2013 #39

Yep..."deep" in the "bring your chest waders and a shovel" sense. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #57

Makes more sense than shooting someone for being in your driveway. nt patrice Feb 2013 #26

This post advocates murder. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #27

Agree pintobean Feb 2013 #28

True. & I apologize for my 2-cents-worth. I won't be deleting & I oppose murder. nt patrice Feb 2013 #33

3-3. I wasn't the first pintobean Feb 2013 #37

So now I guess it's ok nick of time Feb 2013 #42

I've had threads locked for far, far less derby378 Feb 2013 #44

Admin still has a say. pintobean Feb 2013 #46

If OP had an ounce of decency nick of time Feb 2013 #50

Check his transparency page ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #52

Whoa. nick of time Feb 2013 #55

Color me gobsmacked. n/t cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #47

Including killing law enforcement obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #315

I know. nick of time Feb 2013 #316

I think that is mentioned in the TOS obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #318

I was but I deleted the mail Union Scribe Feb 2013 #69

I like to shoot people with my 12MP Olympus Electric Monk Feb 2013 #183

You really are posting some of the most ridiculous stuff. cali Feb 2013 #48

You're basing an anti-gun argument on shooting people? RZM Feb 2013 #53

Certainly indicates how absurd carrying of guns in our society is. Hoyt Feb 2013 #148

Read his transparency page. nick of time Feb 2013 #150

And I think you are concerned about your access to guns. Hoyt Feb 2013 #157

You already know that I don't carry when off my farm. nick of time Feb 2013 #160

Wow.. and i thought i seen it all. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #54

There are certain tools of writing these literalists just can not grasp CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #58

Seems pretty clear to the majority of people here. nick of time Feb 2013 #59

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #60

Uh huh. nick of time Feb 2013 #62

Given some of his other posts ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #64

You are acting like this hit and run troll is brilliant..... NCTraveler Feb 2013 #67

... HappyMe Feb 2013 #71

I seriously doubt that HappyMe Feb 2013 #65

lololololol actslikeacarrot Feb 2013 #66

There are a group with different political leanings sarisataka Feb 2013 #72

The only thing Swift about the OP Union Scribe Feb 2013 #73

Comparing the OP to Swift?! obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #317

And i always thought that..... Oneka Feb 2013 #68

Maybe what we need is highly selective special permits for Concealed Carry & then only Open Carry patrice Feb 2013 #70

Can't we just sue them for reckless endangerment Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #74

What reckless endangerment? nick of time Feb 2013 #78

accidents happen, for instance.... Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #219

He pulled the trigger. nick of time Feb 2013 #228

keep in mind I was responding to a "shoot on sight" OP Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #237

You're right. nick of time Feb 2013 #240

Can i sue anyone who drives a car for reckless endangerment onenote Feb 2013 #89

^^^This^^^, nick of time Feb 2013 #92

Cars have a legitimate use other than to end lives. Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #213

Using a car can be reckless. Using a gun can be reckless. onenote Feb 2013 #246

Some lives need ending. guardian Feb 2013 #325

"all the accidental shootings that happen everyday" Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #91

Deer Agree One_Life_To_Give Feb 2013 #75

Can anyone here speak to whether this is the ground of SYG or not? What if 2 Open Carriers patrice Feb 2013 #81

Only if someone actually took their gun out the holster and brandished it hack89 Feb 2013 #104

In terms of the hypothetical examples I used, in a concealed carry situation, what about SYG patrice Feb 2013 #107

SYG claims have to pass a common sense test hack89 Feb 2013 #110

Why isn't anyone in this thread admitting that what you just said could apply to GANGS? nt patrice Feb 2013 #113

Most SYG laws say you must be attacked, or use of force against you must "be imminent". jmg257 Feb 2013 #166

Thanks for this. nt patrice Feb 2013 #178

For a variety of reasons. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #175

Thanks for the info. Yes, criminals will be criminals. I'm only trying to consider what recourse the patrice Feb 2013 #186

Concealed carry was a compromise. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #194

I can't imagine why people would want to be in places & with people who are dangerous & NOT patrice Feb 2013 #204

Well, open carry is legal here. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #251

If advocating outright murder on a public forum Berserker Feb 2013 #82

You really should self delete this OP Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #84

Good luck with your life in prison goals for 2013! justanidea Feb 2013 #87

I truly hope the admins do the right thing. Socal31 Feb 2013 #93

the last alert was a while ago... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #96

I hope we can get a few answers about SYG, such as the examples in my previous post on SYG above.nt patrice Feb 2013 #103

"Shoot eveyone" "Except for police. Maybe" guardian Feb 2013 #97

You really need an answer? lpbk2713 Feb 2013 #101

Wow. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #102

Let me guess Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #105

I see what you did there, and I will join you in giving the OP an anti-Rec, Pablo Picasso style. slackmaster Feb 2013 #109

That's the most fucked up post I've read on DU this week slackmaster Feb 2013 #106

And then shoot the shooters Throd Feb 2013 #108

Turn on the news, you all, how am I supposed to know whether someone carrying a gun is patrice Feb 2013 #111

Maybe because the carrier is minding their own business and the firearm nick of time Feb 2013 #112

What if I turn my back on a carrier? What if there are several carriers? How do I watch them all? patrice Feb 2013 #117

Well, it it's concealed, nick of time Feb 2013 #119

What if the concealed carrier is another Adam Lanza? patrice Feb 2013 #126

Doubtful. nick of time Feb 2013 #132

You're entitled to think how YOU think & ergo so am I & I think what I do can make a difference in patrice Feb 2013 #134

Of course your entitled to think what you want. nick of time Feb 2013 #135

No! I'm fine with you, nick of time!! & Yes, extremism DOES cause problems, but honest, respectful patrice Feb 2013 #139

Unfortunately nick of time Feb 2013 #143

If it's concealed carry..... Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #123

Q. What are they all so afraid of? A. One another. Ergo, why should I not be afraid of ALL of them? patrice Feb 2013 #129

So, their fear is irrational Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #141

I wonder if the young lady who was blown away in my town lastnight would agree with your rose-tinted patrice Feb 2013 #159

Ok, lets try this another way, see how dedicated you are.. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #173

Isn't that a background check and registration issue? Why would such stops be "necessary" if there patrice Feb 2013 #190

But, if they save lives Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #214

If they are not fearful -why do they carry? Cause they like the extra weight? jmg257 Feb 2013 #181

Why do one carry a jack in their car? Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #185

YES! they are afraid...the same reason I wear a seatbelt, because I am afraid of an acccident!! jmg257 Feb 2013 #192

you also don't know when someone might poison your food ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #114

One risk does not make another risk acceptable. nt patrice Feb 2013 #118

someone carrying a pistol is no more danger to you ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #121

Seriously???? bongbong Feb 2013 #236

let's see... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #242

LOL LOL LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #259

nope... i don't have to provide that ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #264

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #270

you THINK you did... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #274

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #276

you are incorrect... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #281

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #284

let's see how many more LOL's you can post ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #286

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #288

you are still incorrect... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #292

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #304

and thank you for making my point... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #306

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #307

On another board, I was in a discussion about the guy carrying the gun in the JC Penney store. drm604 Feb 2013 #115

So do you agree with the OP that nick of time Feb 2013 #116

No I do not. drm604 Feb 2013 #207

Just asking a question. nick of time Feb 2013 #215

The OP doesn't seem to like guns. drm604 Feb 2013 #323

Maybe. nick of time Feb 2013 #324

The fact that he doesn't like gun people drm604 Feb 2013 #326

Probably not. nick of time Feb 2013 #328

Admittedly, his post was over the top. drm604 Feb 2013 #339

How about the frustration on the other side of the debate? nick of time Feb 2013 #343

I like it! None of this namby-pamby passive-aggressive nonsense JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2013 #120

What. are. guns. for? patrice Feb 2013 #124

Self defense, Offense, nick of time Feb 2013 #127

"Self defense, Offense" i.e. shooting other people with guns. nt patrice Feb 2013 #130

Yes, but not just that, nick of time Feb 2013 #133

True & there is the sporting point. I'm just thinking about what applies to most people, which would patrice Feb 2013 #136

That's a fair point. nick of time Feb 2013 #138

According to the OP, they are "bullet magnets" JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2013 #128

If that was the case.. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #145

If this OP was directed towards a different group darkangel218 Feb 2013 #137

There's a difference between a group that advocates for the right to marry, or for equality between patrice Feb 2013 #142

Excuse me, but this OP is directed towards LAW ABIDING citizens and "maybe police"!! darkangel218 Feb 2013 #149

When concealed carry is the standard, how do I know whose carrying legally and who isn't, especially patrice Feb 2013 #195

In case my point wasn't clear, some groups are advocating for their own authentic rights & others patrice Feb 2013 #144

Many states already have open carry, is not matter of advocating anything! darkangel218 Feb 2013 #153

I'm FOR open carry, so everyone can make their own decisions about where they are & what they patrice Feb 2013 #170

Out of curiosity Niceguy1 Feb 2013 #226

Was the shooter carrying legally? GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #335

I saw one guy with an open carry weopon and he also had an attitude. Someone asked him if anyone doc03 Feb 2013 #161

You're pretty violent for an anti-gun person. Bake Feb 2013 #162

and what are they going to shoot the carriers with, a trebuchet? dionysus Feb 2013 #165

Don't suggest a hoopak Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #179

Pro-gun, especially public toters, are pretty violent as well. Hoyt Feb 2013 #177

That is an out and out lie. nick of time Feb 2013 #182

That's what hoyt does. Bake Feb 2013 #188

And it's people like him who make it so difficult to have an honest nick of time Feb 2013 #191

Doesn't take a lot to backup fact anyone carrying a gun has a degree of violence. Hoyt Feb 2013 #211

Simple, they carry a gun, they practice with a gun, etc. Non-violent people aren't like that. Hoyt Feb 2013 #206

Another lie. nick of time Feb 2013 #218

You can't walk around with a gun, club, bomb, etc., and claim to be non-violent. Hoyt Feb 2013 #223

Sure you can. nick of time Feb 2013 #234

Non-violent people don't walk out door armed. They may not want to get hurt, but Hoyt Feb 2013 #238

More lies. nick of time Feb 2013 #243

Truth hurts. Hoyt Feb 2013 #247

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #253

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #239

I wouldn't know. nick of time Feb 2013 #245

But they are violent enough to walk around prepared to do so. Hoyt Feb 2013 #252

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #255

Really? bongbong Feb 2013 #263

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #265

OK! bongbong Feb 2013 #267

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #269

OK! bongbong Feb 2013 #271

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #278

OK! bongbong Feb 2013 #280

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #282

Getting your post count up bongbong Feb 2013 #285

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #290

ask your doctor if thorazine is right for you... dionysus Feb 2013 #163

I shoot them on sight just for self defence n/t doc03 Feb 2013 #164

And you'd be going to prison for murder. nick of time Feb 2013 #168

It was for my own protection I felt threatened. n/t doc03 Feb 2013 #212

Just because someone is open carrying is not grounds for feeling nick of time Feb 2013 #222

Another dime store lawyer. onenote Feb 2013 #227

WTF it was sarcasm don't get your panties in a bunch doc03 Feb 2013 #250

Really? How many have you shot in the last year? Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #233

Well I have only seen one I wasn't armed and I figured he was more doc03 Feb 2013 #262

See a gun, call 911 mwrguy Feb 2013 #169

And if it's legal in that state or city, nick of time Feb 2013 #171

Easy to get that bongbong Feb 2013 #244

So you would deliberately provoke a confrontation nick of time Feb 2013 #249

I'm helping secure America bongbong Feb 2013 #266

Whatever you say. nick of time Feb 2013 #268

OK! bongbong Feb 2013 #273

If by "helping secure America" you actually mean... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #275

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #279

If you'd made a point that was anything other than utterly ludicrous... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #291

this one is actually kind of fun(ny) ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #295

True Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #299

nice answer... i like that... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #301

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #298

Ironic. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #300

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #302

Clue: repeating the same fallacy doesn't make it less fallacious. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #308

LOL bongbong Feb 2013 #309

Just out of curiosity, will the professionals show up with a can of beans, a bicycle tire shadowrider Feb 2013 #313

You don't need a gun or two tucked in your pants if you are resourceful. Hoyt Feb 2013 #329

My my my. You seem to assume a lot about me despite never meeting me. shadowrider Feb 2013 #340

Shoot all men for implied threat. krispos42 Feb 2013 #176

Ya hope it's concealed Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #187

Mental note: the key to a high post thread B2G Feb 2013 #198

Good one. nick of time Feb 2013 #203

Hey, I like it! truebluegreen Feb 2013 #199

Satire is a thing often lost on those with modest means between thier ears. Whovian Feb 2013 #220

A young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food. Electric Monk Feb 2013 #229

You haven't a frickin' clue as to what satire is if you think your op is such cali Feb 2013 #232

If you think your post constitutes "satire" or "irony" you need to go back to school onenote Feb 2013 #248

"I dont belive anyone should be shot". darkangel218 Feb 2013 #260

Satire is a thing often lost on bad writers. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #319

I think you need to take a course on satiric lit obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #320

Satire sarisataka Feb 2013 #321

Does that mean they should shoot you for openly threatening to murder them? Taitertots Feb 2013 #221

over 200 replies and 10 recs Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #225

Other than tongue in cheek comments go over your head Whovian Feb 2013 #261

Oh, yea, very little anti-gun messages allowed here. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #272

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #277

Another post hidden? nick of time Feb 2013 #287

Ya know, some people just don't get his satire. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #289

That's for sure. nick of time Feb 2013 #293

Or, apparently, his lexicon. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #294

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. So you have to shoot all the implied threats. Bucky Feb 2013 #297

So, now advocating shooting police for carrying sidearms, huh? obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #311

I am so happy to live in a state with strict gun laws. Apparently, we held out.... Walk away Feb 2013 #312

I live in a state with virtually no gun laws and I've never felt even a little bit threatened cali Feb 2013 #332

You live in a state that barely has a year round pupulation. It's a ridiculous comparison. Walk away Feb 2013 #333

OK. Love how you assume I have a gun. I don't. cali Feb 2013 #338

Message auto-removed tomketchum Feb 2013 #330

Wouldn't that prove their point? Octafish Feb 2013 #336

I realize this is meant as satire, but . . . wpelb Feb 2013 #341