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yellowcanine

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55. A lot of crap happened long ago in schools and didn't seem to be a problem. But it was.

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:27 PM

Jan 2012

A lot of physical abuse under the guise of corporal punishment, for example. And sexual abuse also. Long ago doesn't mean squat.

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Picture of Snoozing Sub Gets Student Suspended [View all] Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 OP

Corrected the title. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #1

Yep, as usual, punish the messenger. RKP5637 Jan 2012 #2

I love the trumped up charges against the student. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #3

Yep, it sends the message to the student, submit to authority right or wrong, ask no questions, RKP5637 Jan 2012 #4

Teachers/authority is never wrong. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #5

The student was wrong to post the pic. Could have gone to school admin. instead. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #16

One of the things I find troubling today is that many events like this that would have RKP5637 Jan 2012 #41

Don't get me wrong - I am not defending the teacher. The teacher is being paid to supervise that yellowcanine Jan 2012 #47

This happened soooo long ago, it didn't seem to be a problem way back then. RKP5637 Jan 2012 #49

A lot of crap happened long ago in schools and didn't seem to be a problem. But it was. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #55

That was certainly true!!! Fortunately, I was in a very progressive school system that was RKP5637 Jan 2012 #56

Unfortunately I was not as lucky. I had some teachers who were downright sadistic. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #60

That's horrible that kids should be subjected to this type of crap. I would be still RKP5637 Jan 2012 #61

Yeah it pissed me off and even at the time I knew it was wrong. Public school also, btw. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #62

a substitute teacher is not a very powerful figure Enrique Jan 2012 #18

I nodded off once during surgery, but we were able to fix the colon I slightly nicked. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #22

My mother is an RN mackattack Jan 2012 #57

I recall well that sometimes the pressure was so great at work that many of us use to sleep RKP5637 Jan 2012 #27

I still do DerBeppo Jan 2012 #38

The stress on teachers today is incredible. It's one of the most worthwhile professions IMO, yet RKP5637 Jan 2012 #42

that's what it sounds like, but we don't know the details Enrique Jan 2012 #6

You touched on a good point I often think about, we never seem to get the RKP5637 Jan 2012 #11

There was that story mackattack Jan 2012 #58

This looks like a case where a picture is worth a 1000 words. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #13

Have you seen the picture? I couldn't find it. Brickbat Jan 2012 #15

Have a feeling it's been scrubbed. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17

Oh, the way you were talking, I figured you had seen it, instead of just reading a vague story. Brickbat Jan 2012 #34

I have the same as you. The words of a parent and the words of some school officials. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #35

Was this the picture? lol RKP5637 Jan 2012 #48

Really? What does the picture say about the circumstances at that point in time? Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #37

I'm sure the other students can corroborate. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #39

Facts not in evidence. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #46

If that was the case, then I hope that comes out. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #50

One would wonder if nykym Jan 2012 #7

if the sub had connections Enrique Jan 2012 #14

Pretty short on details. Nothing about whether this was during class time or what, so hard to get Brickbat Jan 2012 #8

If any student taking a pic of a teacher or other student and posting it gets suspended - Ok. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #9

"The student could have gone to school administrators" Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10

So you would rather train a little James O' Keefe disciple? yellowcanine Jan 2012 #19

The powerful tend to protect their own. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #20

I imagine you have a very, very low bar for what you consider power... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #25

Compared to a student, very much so. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #26

Again, the bar you set for power is rather low. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #29

The gap in power between any teacher and a student is wide. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #31

Having the "proof" didn't require posting it for everyone to see. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #30

Yes, it would have been better to bring it to his parents and contact a lawyer. Agreed. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #33

I am not against whistle blowing. That isn't what the student did, imo. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #40

I would be afraid the administrators would just confiscate the camera and delete the photo. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #45

Openly taking a picture in a public setting also is not a crime Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #68

Taking the picture is not but posting it on the internet might be - at least in some jurisdictions. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #71

LOL. Ridiculous. tabasco Jan 2012 #72

Room full of students? Not the same as posting the pic on the WWW. No the student does not have yellowcanine Jan 2012 #73

So many missing details its hard to comment, but montanto Jan 2012 #12

Sounds like the wrong "follow up action" was taken n/t OhioChick Jan 2012 #21

So what did the student learn? Rex Jan 2012 #23

... and sleep during class. a simple pattern Jan 2012 #36

Hope the student, or the student's family, sues. eom tawadi Jan 2012 #24

My granddaughter was suspended for texting during class. LiberalAndProud Jan 2012 #28

I think we need to revisit the legality of low-power Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #69

Wasn't there a recent thread extolling the benefits of iPads in classrooms. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #32

Yes, I fail to see the relevance though. The school isn't banning cell phones, just using them in yellowcanine Jan 2012 #43

Pretty easy to take a picture where it looks like someone is sleeping. cbdo2007 Jan 2012 #44

Oh, look - it's an anti-teacher thread! Hugabear Jan 2012 #51

You view this as anti-teacher? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #52

Hell - I've had classes so boring Aerows Jan 2012 #53

I used to have a history class 2-3, and about 2:30 I used to almost fall asleep. The teacher was RKP5637 Jan 2012 #63

That one time Aerows Jan 2012 #65

Funniest one I ever had was in college. Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #70

LOL! Aerows Jan 2012 #75

I substitute at elementary schools on a regular basis Jennicut Jan 2012 #54

Just pointing out that we don't actually know that anyone was napping. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #59

Sleeping is the LAST thing I would do as a substitute. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #64

how do they know he was sleeping and not just closing his eyes for a few moments and thinking ? JI7 Jan 2012 #66

My thoughts exactly. Quantess Jan 2012 #67

There's got to be more to this. Initech Jan 2012 #74