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Deep13

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56. "life" is not the issue.

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 03:09 PM

Feb 2013

Life has been continuous for at least 3.5 billion years. The sperm and ovum are living cells and they make combination living cell in the zygote. The question, or rather one of three questions, is when does it become a person?

With cloning, every cell in the human body has the potential to be a human being. They cells are alive and are human, but they are not people.

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I'm pro-choice but, [View all] salinen Feb 2013 OP

Buddhists believe that the first breath is when the soul enters the body and I just read a bit ago Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #1

From conception salinen Feb 2013 #3

Not really, a fetus is only viable outside the womb after a certain point. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #7

i'm not possitive salinen Feb 2013 #23

Then the earliest point should be the one taken, right? I think that's what Roe v Wade did. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #24

Viable outside the womb salinen Feb 2013 #34

Yeah....Roe v Wade stated it to be 6 mos., I think? Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #49

The problem with this... Agschmid Feb 2013 #33

That's also a good argument salinen Feb 2013 #37

Me too. Agschmid Feb 2013 #38

That's against the law, unless the baby will die upon birth, or unless the fetus or birth could Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #51

Yes, but unfortunately wages keep getting crushed and having a baby is a huge financial burden. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #40

Incredible financial burden. Agschmid Feb 2013 #42

I think Methodists believe that as well liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #14

say what? No they do not. cali Feb 2013 #28

Did you see this thread, cali? Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #41

there was a time after I had an abortion that I was unsure if I had done the right thing liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #61

parasite? that is scientifically wrong. cali Feb 2013 #27

Agree with this. n/t Agschmid Feb 2013 #35

Definition of parasite demwing Feb 2013 #31

Commensalism salinen Feb 2013 #39

I believe the federal law as it stands is reasonable. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #2

If the arguments make your head hurt why have you started this thread? DURHAM D Feb 2013 #4

Dunno salinen Feb 2013 #5

I'm Sure the Original Poster Didn't Start the Thread so they Could get Snark From Posters Like You dballance Feb 2013 #6

DurhamD isn't snarking obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #8

Seemed Rather Condescending to Me and Added no Value to Discourse on the Thread dballance Feb 2013 #10

Of course he did. DURHAM D Feb 2013 #9

Glad to See Your Mind-Reading Abilities are in Tip Top Shape... dballance Feb 2013 #12

I read many of his other posts. DURHAM D Feb 2013 #13

Funny, I Just Did a Search and Read Many of His Posts dballance Feb 2013 #15

Looks like he went to bed so DURHAM D Feb 2013 #16

Actually, I Haven't Said Anything on the Topic of The Thread and Don't Intend To dballance Feb 2013 #19

I am against abortion... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #11

Well, there are three issues... Deep13 Feb 2013 #17

That's it salinen Feb 2013 #32

More or less, yes. I'm pro-choice, but abortion is killing a life that will LittleBlue Feb 2013 #18

life and potential life are two different things liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #20

Thanks for posting that LittleBlue Feb 2013 #22

I'm with you salinen Feb 2013 #26

Society hasn't decided when a fetus is viable. cali Feb 2013 #29

Probably SCOTUS salinen Feb 2013 #43

"life" is not the issue. Deep13 Feb 2013 #56

Pro-choice with a qualifier? UtahLib Feb 2013 #21

Legally, the right to abortion is restricted, per Roe v Wade. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #25

a difficult, unpopular, but accurate observation n/t zazen Feb 2013 #73

I hear people salinen Feb 2013 #30

Viability isn't arbitrary REP Feb 2013 #47

If one is purely pro-choice demwing Feb 2013 #46

I'm pro-choice, but... Iggo Feb 2013 #36

I am personally against all abortion.. But adamantly pro-choice SQUEE Feb 2013 #65

None of that matters. Jane Roe v. Henry Wade is about controlling your own body. RB TexLa Feb 2013 #44

This is one of those questions pipi_k Feb 2013 #45

that is so sad--I'm so sorry renate Feb 2013 #48

Well said ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #55

I am so sorry for your loss liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #64

At what point during the gestation process... Cerridwen Feb 2013 #50

+1 leftstreet Feb 2013 #60

Thank you, leftstreet. Cerridwen Feb 2013 #70

What leftstreet said. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #68

Thanks. Cerridwen Feb 2013 #71

Yeppers. Solly Mack Feb 2013 #69

Hey, Solly! Thanks! n/t Cerridwen Feb 2013 #72

The fetus can survive earlier and earlier with medical technology ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #52

Roe v Wade approximated the point of viability out of the womb: 6 months. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #53

On this issue I am "center-left", while I agree there should be a choice for abortion, DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #54

I support Roe v. Wade's definition of this point &, btw, rape or not, is ir-relevant to the woman's patrice Feb 2013 #57

Odd thing I learned a long time ago mzteris Feb 2013 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author patrice Feb 2013 #63

pardon me - wrong place. patrice Feb 2013 #67

Oh and one other thing mzteris Feb 2013 #59

Do we or do we not respect the individual's right to decide for themselves? At what point does gtar100 Feb 2013 #62

Because I am for CHOICE I also support policies that enable women to provide for the children patrice Feb 2013 #66