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Festivito

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24. The assumption that cats are spread uniformly across the lower US seems unlikely.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:04 AM
Feb 2013

For example, our mountainous regions probably do not have that uniform distribution of cats, feral or other.

Yet, they use this uniform distribution to then get these high predation estimates.

We defined a uniform distribution rather than a normal distribution because the lack of rigorously derived estimates of un-owned cat population size precludes assignment of greater probability to a particular value. This range of abundance is conservative given local U.S. studies that estimate densities of 0.06-0.16 un-owned cats per ha 51 52 53 which extrapolates to 46-123 million un-owned cats across the land area of the contiguous U.S. The validity of extrapolating three density values to a national-scale abundance estimate is questionable.


They use the roughly 3-million square miles of the lower US and get one number range.

Not to say the evidence is not mounting. I think more will be coming on this subject. But, I think our real problem with loss of animals in nature is from other causes that we need to address first. GMOs, pesticides/herbicides, CO2, ... before we get to cats.

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...... smokey nj Feb 2013 #11
I thought this was already documented in the UK a while back. Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #18
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predators are crucial to population health. mopinko Feb 2013 #7
Bird sanctuary reteachinwi Feb 2013 #8
What kind of carts? tledford Feb 2013 #9
Funny how when a dog attacks somebody, generally the OWNER is blamed forestpath Feb 2013 #12
I think it depends on the environment - hedgehog Feb 2013 #14
Cats don't have owners slackmaster Feb 2013 #16
Saving endangered flightless birds in New Zealand jumps to places without flightless birds. Festivito Feb 2013 #15
It's not a nonissue in the US XemaSab Feb 2013 #17
I'm not buying that it's not a nonissue. Festivito Feb 2013 #19
That Cuddly Kitty Is Deadlier Than You Think XemaSab Feb 2013 #20
Again, I think numbers on mortality are incomplete until we know the replacement rate - hedgehog Feb 2013 #22
The assumption that cats are spread uniformly across the lower US seems unlikely. Festivito Feb 2013 #24
Killer cats !!!!!!! salimc Feb 2013 #21
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