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wercal

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25. Let me expound

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 12:47 PM

Feb 2013

A few weeks ago, legislation was introduced, as 'assault weapon' legislation.

In addition to mental health checks and gun show loopholes, it listed specific firearms than it proposed to ban, as well as characteristics of firearms that would be banned.

Yogi Berra comes to mind.

I'm going to make an assumption (and please correct me if I'm wrong)....you used the term 'bolt action shotgun' in this thread.....so I am going to assume you are not a gun enthusiast, and don't know alot of the intricate details of each model.

I really don't either. But, I do know this: A semi-automatic pistol has the same killing capability in an indoor massacre situation as an assault weapon. Therefore, the fixation on collapsible stocks and pistol grips, etc. in the proposed legislation (which is specifically tailored towards assault weapons and not pistols) is really fixating on a distinction without a difference.

In fact, if you examine the characteristics that would be banned, they are characteristics that make an AR-15 more like....well...a pistol (i.e. the probibitiion against a pistol grip).

So, if you are at all interested in closing gun show loopholes, and requiring mental health checks, please know that the 'political theater' aspects of the legislation are easy fodder to be picked at; and, likely little progress will be made in any aspect of gun control....and this will be precisely because of the tunnel vision on assault weapons.

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Are you cool with rural folks' hunting guns? [View all] Robb Feb 2013 OP

If you need more than 2 shots to shoot a duck, you are not hunting. liberal N proud Feb 2013 #1

Current federal limit of 3 safeinOhio Feb 2013 #2

I was recalling double barrel shot guns. liberal N proud Feb 2013 #5

For the most part? Hunting weapons aren't part of the problem, no. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #3

? Crepuscular Feb 2013 #4

Rural folks? You have to be kidding, right? Coyotl Feb 2013 #6

Sounds like you don't live out in the country ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #10

I'm 30 miles from the store, in the middle of the National Forest, with bear, elk, salmon Coyotl Feb 2013 #15

I am about the same. No subsistence hunters left in most of CA due to bad laws ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #18

Subsistence hunting was VERY common in California during the Great Depression slackmaster Feb 2013 #19

What bad laws? Xithras Feb 2013 #32

come down to south Alabama, Mississippi or Arkansas ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #20

Where in the hell do you live at to have such a WRONG idea about "rural folks"? cynatnite Feb 2013 #28

I hunt and fish for subsistence, garden and farmed too, forage, foray, etc. in rural USA, elsewhere Coyotl Feb 2013 #35

Your words...not mine. n/t cynatnite Feb 2013 #36

WTF are you talking about? Daemonaquila Feb 2013 #40

I'm talking about hunters being more than just "rural folks" Coyotl Feb 2013 #43

I'd be cool with them. So - how do you fairly distinguish jmg257 Feb 2013 #7

as long as they hunt critter and not people dembotoz Feb 2013 #8

Misleadingly facile. There's no division of rifles and shotguns into "hunting" and "non-hunting" Recursion Feb 2013 #9

I don't hunt, but I'm okay with it. HOWEVER the thing about hunting.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #11

Not if you are hunting for subsistence guardian Feb 2013 #24

Vastly more relevant than Grandpa's duck gun, Grandpa is not part of the problem slackmaster Feb 2013 #12

Its a curious question wercal Feb 2013 #13

Funny, isn't it? Recursion Feb 2013 #14

We ARE actually talking about that. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #21

Let me expound wercal Feb 2013 #25

I know this is nit-picking, but..... NickB79 Feb 2013 #37

Let me introduce you to my friend, the goose gun: Erose999 Feb 2013 #42

I despise guns and hunting, but this is not the real problem. MoonRiver Feb 2013 #16

Most assault weapons are not powerful enough to hunt deer Recursion Feb 2013 #22

"rural folks' hunting guns" Chathamization Feb 2013 #17

Way, way, way too many Recursion Feb 2013 #23

If you shoot it, you gotta eat it (unless it's made of clay). leveymg Feb 2013 #26

Would that include guardian Feb 2013 #29

A little hot sauce and a matching wine does wonders, even for the gamiest meat. leveymg Feb 2013 #34

I sure hope grandpa would be eating roast duck after killing the ducks... Tikki Feb 2013 #27

If it's a game animal, that's illegal in every state NickB79 Feb 2013 #38

We need to move away from the NRA second amendment neighborhood nuclear superiority Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #30

Speaking as a rural folk, riqster Feb 2013 #31

only if they are regulated the way Japan regulates hunter's firearms.... mike_c Feb 2013 #33

I live amidst the national forest. longship Feb 2013 #39

My dad hunted. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #41