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hlthe2b

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178. I draw the line at Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. I can appreciate some of nearly all music/genres

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 02:21 PM

Feb 2013

But, the plasticized "creations" and the forced celebrity of the minimally talented overly produced/overly hyped just leaves me cold.

Beyonce has a voice when she chooses material and a venue to highlight it. The SB wasn't such a forum, but, rather a spectacle and thus her showmanship took front stage. I understand that and am not being critical.

But, back to Swift, Honestly, they are so over-hyping her, I think she is headed for a major "burn-out" backlash. And, yes, I agree. She really can NOT sing. Like Bieber--just a overly promoted creation. But, both Swift and Bieber appeal to pre-teens. I understand that and clearly those marketing them do as well... But, that will predictably give them limited "shelf-life"... Their time will come and go.

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What you "young turds" are missing about halftime show [View all] Atman Feb 2013 OP

I do recall the thought about the light and their effect on epileptics last night liberal N proud Feb 2013 #1

Disagree. Best ever! brush Feb 2013 #11

Glad you enjoyed it so. mac56 Feb 2013 #95

It was good for TV, but must have sucked for half the stadium jberryhill Feb 2013 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Feb 2013 #202

Better than The Who? bvar22 Feb 2013 #132

Actually, I thought she was way better than the Who or the Stones. independentpiney Feb 2013 #155

We'll see whose music stands the test of time ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #228

I didn't say anything about her music standing the test of time , did I? independentpiney Feb 2013 #251

Pro-Am Jazz Guitarist here. I've played behind several young solo female jazz coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #176

Do you remember the first Inauguration Ball when she sang 'At Last'? Pmc1962 Feb 2013 #188

I will definitely give her a second look and listen. I may have too hastily coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #191

She did a great job, I personally don't like much NewYorkTaxPayer Feb 2013 #234

I had not been following her / paying attention to what she did bloom Feb 2013 #249

i hate alicia keys' music tomp Feb 2013 #304

I think she could do a good 'Bless the Child' but I agree with you about 'All of Me'. Dollface Feb 2013 #199

Amen !...I was a studio musician for 6 years (piano/sax) and Beyonce would be rated a "C" ... BlueJazz Feb 2013 #238

Musically she's lame and untrained, and shes got gawd awful thick cellulose thighs. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #265

Not gonna comment about whether she's musically untrained . . . brush Feb 2013 #271

I noticed the same thing about her thighs. ObaMania Feb 2013 #302

You need to get some glasses too. Nothing wrong with those thighs. brush Feb 2013 #306

It's been decades since I've lived in L.A. Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #296

I HATED The Who and The Stones at the SB backwoodsbob Feb 2013 #217

...and some people prefer McCheeseburgers and diet coke... bvar22 Feb 2013 #221

and some people hang onto the past with a tight fist backwoodsbob Feb 2013 #222

I'm so grateful hip-hop is almost dead. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #267

FYI, Beyonce's music is not hip-hop. brush Feb 2013 #274

Far better than those dbackjon Feb 2013 #236

Agreed. Her performance pales in comparison to many who have played the SB. Especially this band.. ObaMania Feb 2013 #300

one day Beyonce will be "Geriatric" also , will she be worthless then ? JI7 Feb 2013 #227

I hope by then she would know better than to try the same moves she pulled off . . . brush Feb 2013 #270

At least she was able to do it in time with the rhythmic noise. RC Feb 2013 #120

God, I wish DU gave out awards for sardonic wit. Your post would coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #177

Just reading DU keeps me in shape. RC Feb 2013 #213

As an epileptic who is ChazII Feb 2013 #128

This should go well... alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #2

You still watch football? RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #3

Funny thing is, I never watch football. Atman Feb 2013 #7

Maybe next year we can have the greatness that is Rihanna! snooper2 Feb 2013 #66

Talented singer. dawg Feb 2013 #4

Why has lipsync become acceptable and expected? pipoman Feb 2013 #5

General compensation dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #9

That was great. Thanks. Bonobo Feb 2013 #68

You might want to check out Sinead O'Connor's cover of Kurt Cobain's coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #180

Sinead has always been amazing. go west young man Feb 2013 #266

Nice! nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #153

I don't find much here. One octave but she can play a guitar. scubadude Feb 2013 #291

Now here is an example of a 5 octave voice. Very rare indeed. Annie Haslam scubadude Feb 2013 #292

lip-syncing has been the norm since "American Bandstand" TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #14

Remember Ed Sullivan? proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #84

Yes, I remember the Ed Sullivan Shew TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #87

It was definitely not "common knowledge" that pscot Feb 2013 #115

I remember it as a teenager TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #129

The Midnight Specials were live... WCGreen Feb 2013 #187

Somebody clearly doesn't know the Ed Sullivan Show duffyduff Feb 2013 #140

Wait a minute. mac56 Feb 2013 #97

Yup--and what about the time The Doors sang the actual lyrics to truebluegreen Feb 2013 #149

Conversely, the Stones went the other way. mac56 Feb 2013 #209

I remember that too. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #212

"Girl, we couldn't get much higher" was censored? Wow! Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #288

It just takes a statement to make something "fact" anymore. Hulk Feb 2013 #246

Could be they couldn't hear themselves at the time. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #299

Nope. EC Feb 2013 #105

Two of my cousins were in a manufactured girl band on Ed Sullivan. Atman Feb 2013 #110

kewl flamingdem Feb 2013 #122

Chances are they didn't lip-synch duffyduff Feb 2013 #142

"Cry Baby Cry" is my fav I think Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #146

The Doors cojoel Feb 2013 #125

The Stones had to change "Let's Spend the Night Together" duffyduff Feb 2013 #144

Not--repeat NOT--true. They all sang live. duffyduff Feb 2013 #137

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Unlike many shows of the time, WinkyDink Feb 2013 #184

LLoyd Thaxton? 12AngryBorneoWildmen Feb 2013 #86

Britney Spears Lip Syncing Unknown Beatle Feb 2013 #174

That's got to be fake Catherine Vincent Feb 2013 #286

Thanks for reminding all the so called purists. And Bandstand started in the 50s. nt brush Feb 2013 #275

It's actually not nearly as common as it used to be. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #34

I looked at some of those pipoman Feb 2013 #112

You are wrong Fiendish Thingy Feb 2013 #119

It's also a symptom of a greater emphasis on dancing JAbuchan08 Feb 2013 #42

She wasn't lip-synching AAO Feb 2013 #46

Nothing to do with talent.... At events like that they ALWAYS record a vocal tape for emergencies sweetloukillbot Feb 2013 #91

The more things change the more they remain the same TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #101

It always has been. 60 years ago singers took their records to sock hops and lip synced to them to appleannie1 Feb 2013 #117

Post-processing of musicians is not new. Stonepounder Feb 2013 #160

OT somewhat, but the classical pianist Arthur Rubenstein in his autobiography (IIRC) said coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #179

setting up a stage with real vocals and such backwoodsbob Feb 2013 #219

And maybe next year The Wizard Feb 2013 #283

None of that is accurate. Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #297

bingo..my wife has been saying this for years.. pipoman Feb 2013 #305

While fan of acoustic bands just standing playing banjos, mandolins, etc., I thought show was great Hoyt Feb 2013 #6

I didn't say it wasn't a good show Atman Feb 2013 #13

Very well said malaise Feb 2013 #29

Your post made me remember Barbara Mandrell. maddiemom Feb 2013 #73

Yes but in fairness dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #25

There you go. Wish it would work in a dome with millions watching, but that's just good. Hoyt Feb 2013 #93

lulz well - " she was just shaking her half-naked body " OhZone Feb 2013 #8

I agree. Yes, she CAN sing and she does have talent. NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #10

This old turd enjoyed the show. GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #12

Glitzy, sleazy, titillating garbage. reformist2 Feb 2013 #15

I blame the Exploding Plastic Inevitable Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #16

I am neither an old nor a young 'turd' but I think you're being ridiculous. PeaceNikki Feb 2013 #17

I "clearly" do not? Atman Feb 2013 #18

You compared her to the 'hundred strippers' you've seen. I got it. PeaceNikki Feb 2013 #20

That's all you got out of my post? Atman Feb 2013 #26

My point was a counter-point to your OP. The 'yound turds' and others can appreciate both PeaceNikki Feb 2013 #36

That's not a counterpoint at all Atman Feb 2013 #40

Well, kudos to you for demonstrating maturity in discussing a topic and not getting personal or PeaceNikki Feb 2013 #45

Psst...you might to go back and #17 Atman Feb 2013 #55

I got it JanMichael Feb 2013 #24

I think Beyonce is a snoozefest. cali Feb 2013 #19

Grace Potter! Now you're talking! Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #124

Oo-la-la oo-la-la-la-la Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #152

Love Grace Potter! nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #154

The show was OK. Thankfully, Ted Nugent wasn't in it. nt SDjack Feb 2013 #21

I was in the next room.. sendero Feb 2013 #22

This Is Showbiz...Pure And Simple... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #23

But that is really the point. Atman Feb 2013 #33

I didn't watch it. LWolf Feb 2013 #27

I just want them . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #28

The true measure of a great singer is when they are Skidmore Feb 2013 #30

true trumad Feb 2013 #38

Perhaps she should do it more often and foresake the Skidmore Feb 2013 #141

With all of the major issues in the news today, this is what you want to post about? Really?? nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #31

Yes, at the moment. Atman Feb 2013 #37

Maybe they'll get Joan Baez for next year's halftime show MrScorpio Feb 2013 #32

Really, really tired response Atman Feb 2013 #44

Actually, I do MrScorpio Feb 2013 #49

Joan Baez sang for us--The Nation Cruise--in December. mnhtnbb Feb 2013 #59

Lovely photo. Thanks for sharing! nt Romulox Feb 2013 #70

I love Joan Baez. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #252

Please tell me what stripper bar you go to? trumad Feb 2013 #35

Tell me you didn't get rid of your ""I'm a fuckin' man but they kicked me out Waaaah!" sig! nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #65

Replaced it with my bug. trumad Feb 2013 #79

That's what I used to say about Beyonce's grandmother Madonna rocktivity Feb 2013 #170

No tits visible proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #39

The half-time show was terrible, the singing was crappy, the extravaganza a cultural cancer. Coyotl Feb 2013 #41

I totally agree with all you said. I was not entertained. nt snappyturtle Feb 2013 #53

All halftime shows are terrible. jeff47 Feb 2013 #92

The last time I remeber being wowed by a halftime show.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #111

Thank you genxlib Feb 2013 #272

Agreed. I posted the video on #300 ObaMania Feb 2013 #303

You are wrong dbackjon Feb 2013 #237

Well it fits perfectly with the hyped up glitz and glamor of the Superbowl lunatica Feb 2013 #43

Yawn. Crepuscular Feb 2013 #47

I didn't love it. wildeyed Feb 2013 #48

Meh too Brainstormy Feb 2013 #50

That's what my mom said about The Doors and Cream and the other 60's music I listened to. Dollface Feb 2013 #200

God! So many people sound like "get off my lawn types here. brush Feb 2013 #276

How about a really good high school jazz band and the Andrews Sisters? amandabeech Feb 2013 #205

I'm with you. 840high Feb 2013 #290

I would prefer to see a high school or college marching band MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #51

Should be the DCI champ doing the halftime kydo Feb 2013 #90

Oh yeah MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #100

I'm with you Atman justiceischeap Feb 2013 #52

Thank you! Someone got it! Atman Feb 2013 #67

I get it too. Blanks Feb 2013 #247

An example to the notion of yesphan Feb 2013 #113

Taylor Swift will probably be the halftime entertainment LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #151

I draw the line at Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. I can appreciate some of nearly all music/genres hlthe2b Feb 2013 #178

"I've seen a hundred strippers do the same moves." NCTraveler Feb 2013 #54

See post #44 Atman Feb 2013 #62

I do feel to each his own applies to you, and you didn't like the show. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #72

No, you are totally wrong. Atman Feb 2013 #80

More special than what? Not sure what you mean by that. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #94

Exactly. October Feb 2013 #114

Geez, it's your opinion. We get it. October Feb 2013 #109

Vapid pop sucks, and if she was any good she could do her job fully dressed. LeftyMom Feb 2013 #56

She can do that when she's old. Dollface Feb 2013 #198

If only... ajk2821 Feb 2013 #57

Okay. . .well, let's compare it to another diva's halftime performance kevinbgoode1 Feb 2013 #58

That was the best ever! independentpiney Feb 2013 #255

Sorry Atman, you can't be an official Old Turd - only if you switched to Downton Abbey . . . hatrack Feb 2013 #60

In other news... Javaman Feb 2013 #61

Half-time is for grabbing more nachos and taking a dump... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #63

I thought it was pretty bad wercal Feb 2013 #64

Takes alot of stamina to dance at that level and sing at the same time. And she does write her own JaneyVee Feb 2013 #69

I hope someone's documenting this Beyonc� dustup as an example Heidi Feb 2013 #71

If I become as much of... 99Forever Feb 2013 #74

Yes, it most certainly did......nft plethoro Feb 2013 #138

"She was a prop in someone else's stage show." BINGO! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #75

The young will always think they are hipper than us old farts... WI_DEM Feb 2013 #76

I like rock music too and Bruce was the best of the modern half time shows Jennicut Feb 2013 #77

I have the exact same reaction as you. For all the hysteria surrounding her performance Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #78

I don't care about the content of the half-time show. meaculpa2011 Feb 2013 #81

Half time is for the players and coaches OriginalGeek Feb 2013 #134

Vapid dance pop can be fun. I like to dance to it when I go down to the city Zorra Feb 2013 #82

people on both sides of this topic are being silly, imho Marrah_G Feb 2013 #83

im an old turd and think Beyonce is a really talented perfomer. bullimiami Feb 2013 #85

what I wonder is hfojvt Feb 2013 #88

I'm an old 'lech' 12AngryBorneoWildmen Feb 2013 #89

This turd saw the last 5 minutes & then went back to The Music Man to watch some other women dancing progressoid Feb 2013 #96

I wish I could Rec this thread 100 times ... Myrina Feb 2013 #98

What does Cenk have to do with it? JHB Feb 2013 #99

I'd bring back Marching Bands...like those in Drumline....... Burma Jones Feb 2013 #102

I thought it was awful, personally Aerows Feb 2013 #103

Agreed...she is over-rated and a homophobe to boot...knr joeybee12 Feb 2013 #104

Homophobe? Where did you get that nonsense? nt brush Feb 2013 #277

Lighten up people Not Me Feb 2013 #106

I think I am getting old.. I didn't care for this at all... same for Madonna and Britney Spears show secondwind Feb 2013 #107

Thank you! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #116

Speaking as a young professional musician... MirrorAshes Feb 2013 #118

THANK YOU! So many musical regressives on . . . brush Feb 2013 #278

What happened to Feminism? Zoonart Feb 2013 #121

I agree PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #127

I love your post. nt Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #159

I hate the way singers murder The National Anthem. They seem to appleannie1 Feb 2013 #123

Absolutely! aka-chmeee Feb 2013 #257

My Dad is 87 years old.......... Stainless Feb 2013 #126

I agree and disagree... ReRe Feb 2013 #130

What you saw last night was just the superficial aspects of Beyonce ecstatic Feb 2013 #131

Hundreds of strippers ?? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #133

This ole woman says Beyonce's half time show was great appacom Feb 2013 #135

What appacom said. I'm old and I thought the show was upbeat and fun. Couldn't help but dance. Dollface Feb 2013 #197

Great post. And it's obvious the OP is not only stuck in the past but has no clue of the present Number23 Feb 2013 #206

Great post. I agree 100 per cent. To me, it plethoro Feb 2013 #136

Too bad Elvis couldn't have performed. Fredfon Feb 2013 #139

Heh heh.... MADem Feb 2013 #158

Any time I have seen Beyonce mainstreetonce Feb 2013 #143

The national anthem was pretty good. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #145

I thought the entire event was a metaphor. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #147

wow Locrian Feb 2013 #148

Hilariously enough Romulus Quirinus Feb 2013 #150

I am an OLD fart and I thought it was great. MADem Feb 2013 #156

Great post. bigwillq Feb 2013 #161

It's not a great post at all. It's a load of crap. Atman Feb 2013 #166

Thank you. I'm waiting for the outrage about the combo of violence and sexuality that was MADem Feb 2013 #190

+ a million. MADem you are cool with me, in every sense of the word Number23 Feb 2013 #235

exactly so. bloom Feb 2013 #250

WOO HOO! I love your post. You nailed my thoughts exactly brush Feb 2013 #279

I even like the tunes from the turn of the century that my great granny used to sing to me. MADem Feb 2013 #280

As long as it is not a group of decrepit rockers, it's fine by me tarheelsunc Feb 2013 #157

She doesn't even pronounce her own name right BlueStreak Feb 2013 #162

Honestly.. who freaking cares? rivegauche Feb 2013 #163

They should end the BS halftime shows completely (and NOT because of last night alone) Moostache Feb 2013 #164

Be careful what you wish for BlueStreak Feb 2013 #168

Not. Gonna. Happen. The halftime show is a Superbowl TRADITION. MADem Feb 2013 #194

I'm presupposing that most people have... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #165

ugh...old vs. young adamhide Feb 2013 #167

I bet you LOVE dubstep. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #169

I love me some house techno! Atman Feb 2013 #210

The 'dancing' was peculiar libodem Feb 2013 #171

As a 50 year old white male The Second Stone Feb 2013 #172

People are complaining about Beyonce's wardrobe but say nothing Apophis Feb 2013 #173

I Am With You erpowers Feb 2013 #175

You are right on the money, Atman!! Bake Feb 2013 #181

The game was in New Orleans Bluzmann57 Feb 2013 #182

+100 dreamnightwind Feb 2013 #225

EXACTLY. I have been saying this for years. SMC22307 Feb 2013 #268

You echo my thoughts. I miss music. Real music. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #183

I am sort of stunned that this is even an issue. a la izquierda Feb 2013 #185

I agree -don't see the post as a knock on Beyonce Johonny Feb 2013 #186

+100. nt Skip Intro Feb 2013 #189

I have heard of "young Turks" and "old farts" but not "young turds" yellowcanine Feb 2013 #192

If you want to sell Go Daddy, Diet Coke and the adoration of corporations you need a Beyonce. raouldukelives Feb 2013 #193

She can bump and grind, and maybe she can sing GCP Feb 2013 #195

Us old farts weren't the target audience of the show. In our day we had shit acts too. alfredo Feb 2013 #196

to each his own SemperEadem Feb 2013 #201

First all girl band to perform at Super Bowl and I give them all a great hand even if it is not my randr Feb 2013 #203

This message was self-deleted by its author mac56 Feb 2013 #211

Hey wait a second- I'm young and agree with you! LittleBlue Feb 2013 #204

she was just shaking her half-naked body while stuff blew up? notadmblnd Feb 2013 #207

Stay focused... Atman Feb 2013 #208

but I read that and that is where it stopped for me. notadmblnd Feb 2013 #214

They made a point of "stripping her" during the performance. Atman Feb 2013 #216

There was a halftime show last night? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #215

I don't like any half time shows... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #218

Hey Atman, SomethingFishy Feb 2013 #220

Good post. My own son has recorded some awesome "songs" on his MacBook. Atman Feb 2013 #229

OMG SF - that is an interesting theory Skittles Feb 2013 #298

Seriously? Or are you being facetious? DaveJ Feb 2013 #223

Get off my lawn! Hissyspit Feb 2013 #224

It's funny how the same tired posters post the same tired cliches. Atman Feb 2013 #230

Oh, wait... Atman Feb 2013 #231

I'm a college lecturer who studies and lectures on music Hissyspit Feb 2013 #232

Judging by your post, you're exactly what we're all being pilloried for! Atman Feb 2013 #239

It was cotton candy. alfredo Feb 2013 #243

"Not only are sales of old-fashioned albums booming, it's the young who are buying" Hissyspit Feb 2013 #307

Arranged to make money Beringia Feb 2013 #226

To her credit, you could watch the performance with one hand. Flatulo Feb 2013 #233

But there's still the Doritos and the Remote! Atman Feb 2013 #241

THANK YOU Skittles Feb 2013 #240

C'mon...240x repiles and 140x recs... Atman Feb 2013 #242

I imagine you believe it means something else. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #248

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #258

Byonce did not impress me one bit. Maybe she does have a talent that some appreciate. TxVietVet Feb 2013 #244

It was ok. Soundman Feb 2013 #245

I do not like Beyonce at all aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #253

You just listed many of my favorite singers as well! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #261

Beyonce, Britney, Rihanna, Katy, JLo, Fergie... SMC22307 Feb 2013 #273

I guess I am an old turd and I dont mind the label. I just think rhett o rick Feb 2013 #254

Amen! aka-chmeee Feb 2013 #256

Bwahahaha, you go get 'em! "Young turds". Curmudgeoness Feb 2013 #259

Really? Phaedrus76 Feb 2013 #260

Uhm, yes... Atman Feb 2013 #264

What that halftime show needed was a good old fashioned wardrobe malfunction!! Harry Monroe Feb 2013 #262

I suppose if you knew that she actually has a very hands on glowing Feb 2013 #263

You might have wanted to watch the Pre-game Atman Feb 2013 #269

I didn't say she designed the halftime show; that would be like her designing the Grammys, glowing Feb 2013 #281

I think it could be argued that the whole spectacle go west young man Feb 2013 #282

No one cares The Wizard Feb 2013 #284

I didn't see her show, but wasn't impressed with Madonna's last year. It seemed to be a lot of Incitatus Feb 2013 #285

I wanna say something. dead_head Feb 2013 #287

Tragically Hip rocks and welcome to DU brother! go west young man Feb 2013 #289

All this time I thought music and the visuals were subjective. To each their own and whatnot SilveryMoon Feb 2013 #293

funny thing is when Madonna okieinpain Feb 2013 #294

The Superbowl show is supposed to be a spectacular . . . MrModerate Feb 2013 #295

It was basically a burlesque review... peacebird Feb 2013 #301