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Victor_c3

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23. I know it's not the same, but I raided my share of wrong houses when I was in Iraq
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:08 PM
Feb 2013

we'd plan these elaborate large-scale raids where we'd target 6-10 houses in a smallish community and hit them all at once with 400+ Soldiers and all of their accessories. On more than one occasion I remember getting the neighbor's house or being a block or two off from the intended target.

I really felt like crap for doing it, but we'd kick int he doors, throw stuff all over the place, segregate the the women, children, and men and start to process the people we thought we should detain. Kids and women would be crying and all hell would be breaking loose in the houses. Then, the battalion intelligence guy would say that we got the wrong house, we'd cut the zip-ties off of the wrists of the men and leave as fast as we came and hit the supposed correct house.

Talk about winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqis... I always felt terrible for panic I caused - especially after having kids of my own. I couldn't imagine how I would feel to be woken up in the middle of the night to a group of 20-40 heavily armed Soldiers with Tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles ripping up my house, scaring the crap out of my kids, and arresting me and taking me away from my family.

Actually, I really feel like crap for most of the stuff I did in Iraq. I had a lot of opportunities to display compassion and to soften my presence and I blew most of them. I really could have made a difference at least to the small sector that I worked out of as a Platoon Leader and been a much kinder and gentler person. The sad truth is that I was probably just as scared doing what I was doing in Iraq as the Iraqi people were of me and I was just trying to survive long enough to get home. "Violence of execution" is a major tenant of operations and how the military functions and, as a younger and more naive guy, I executed all too well without enough restraint.

I know that this is starting to turn into a lengthy rant now, but my experiences in Iraq in 2004 really shifted me hard to the left and made me a much kinder and gentler person.

Domestic terrorists. (nt) NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1
That war on drugs sure is working (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #2
When every tool you own is a hammer, every problem gets treated like a nail. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #32
You have to practice your badass SWAT skills if you want to stay sharp BlueStreak Feb 2013 #4
How hard is it to make sure you have the right house? think Feb 2013 #5
I know it's not the same, but I raided my share of wrong houses when I was in Iraq Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #23
I appreciate you sharing your experiences. think Feb 2013 #25
Thank you for sharing this! Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #27
I Know Those of Us Who Haven't Served Can't Understand What It's Like to be in Combat dballance Feb 2013 #29
Thank you for what you wrote. Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #31
This is a non-apology from the police force: LisaLynne Feb 2013 #6
Maybe it was Vamanos Pest? Initech Feb 2013 #7
The SWAT team is lucky no one was shot (civilians or SWAT members) NickB79 Feb 2013 #8
IIRC the PD members received awards for that raid. Glassunion Feb 2013 #11
WTF? NickB79 Feb 2013 #13
Dunno. Here is a link to the story. Glassunion Feb 2013 #16
Not a first for MPD in 1989 they killed an elderly couple doing the same thing azurnoir Feb 2013 #20
Gosh, a few less AR-15s in the budget for these clowns post-lawsuit hatrack Feb 2013 #9
Hahahaha! NickB79 Feb 2013 #14
Well, we have it on good authority that flashbangs are not incendiary or pyrotechnic devices. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #17
Do you honestly believe their budget will be cut? pediatricmedic Feb 2013 #19
It's like they've never seen an episode of Breaking Bad hootinholler Feb 2013 #22
they're going insane. barbtries Feb 2013 #10
This is normal. The tree of safety needs to be watered from time to time. Glassunion Feb 2013 #12
Sounds like a raid of mistaken identity, of going to the wrong address. Cleita Feb 2013 #15
The acts of a fascist state. nt valerief Feb 2013 #18
All you have to do when you get a report of a meth lab is to stake it out.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #21
Seriously pathetic. Hopefully this family wins millions Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #24
Wait a minute a flash bang grenade in a meth lab.....really. Historic NY Feb 2013 #26
Just..plain...irony. Socal31 Feb 2013 #30
Yah, a grenade? packman Feb 2013 #28
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