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AdHocSolver

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12. Spare me your nonsense!
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jan 2012

My comments explain what the Federal Reserve ACTUALLY does, not what the propagandists claim it does.

If the Fed actually acted to help the people of the U.S. (the 99 percent) rather than the wealthiest 1 percent, then this country would not be in the economic situation we have now.

Let's consider inflation for example.

Up until the early 1980's, before Greenspan took over the Fed under Reagan, the Fed policy was to raise interest rates to combat inflation. What was the source of inflation that worried the Fed? It was not rising consumer prices. It was rising wages.

By raising interest rates, the Fed wanted to stifle business expansion, the idea being that this would increase the unemployment numbers and create a pool of excess labor that would bid down wages.

There was a down side for Wall Street in this policy. Increased interest rates for depositors caused the middle class to forgo putting money in risky stocks, and prefer the safety and better yields of bank deposits. Moreover, high interest rates reduced activity in the real estate markets and depressed house prices.

Then some Wall Street "genius" developed a solution that would help Wall Street rip off the 99 percent with little or no downside for the 1 percent.

Instead of raising interest rates, lower the interest rates. Cheap money encourages people to play the stock market (better returns to counteract the greater risk). The more money the middle class throws at the stock market (irrespective of how worthwhile the stock actually is -- remember Enron?), the higher the stock price will rise.

Cheaper money translates into cheaper mortgages which means lower monthly payments. This means people are encouraged to spend more for a house than they could otherwise afford which means increased house prices which means high real estate commissions. Moreover, banks created the balloon mortgage since they didn't want people to get a good deal. The banks merely wanted buyers to commit to spending more than they could actually afford. The banks would cash in three years later when the buyer's mortgage rate and payments went considerably higher.

To counteract the problem of rising wages in a "booming" economy, Wall Street would outsource jobs to low wage countries such as Mexico (NAFTA) and China. This would create a surplus of workers in the U.S. and keep wages down.

While wage inflation has become wage deflation, consumer prices have risen considerably, as anybody who has been to a supermarket lately can attest.

This scheme of Wall Street depended heavily on the collusion of the Federal Reserve. The Fed is NOT a central bank that works for the country as a whole. It is a captive of Wall Street that plays its role in enhancing the wealth of the 1 percent at the expense of the 99 percent.

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1/13/12 The Occupy Movement is not associated with Ron Paul, or his supporters, Zorra Jan 2012 #1
Wonderful post. Rex Jan 2012 #31
They sound a bit like the SWP in the UK Ebadlun Jan 2012 #51
The Federal Reserve is run by and for the big banks. AdHocSolver Jan 2012 #2
Central banking serves numerous purposes both public and private. Major Nikon Jan 2012 #6
The Fed doesn't work for the people of the US. It works for the banks and Wall Street. nt AdHocSolver Jan 2012 #7
It does work for you Major Nikon Jan 2012 #8
Spare me your nonsense! AdHocSolver Jan 2012 #12
You lost me with your subject line Major Nikon Jan 2012 #13
Translation: you believe what you believe regardless of facts. TheWraith Jan 2012 #14
+10000000000 , so many suffer suffer from normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance stockholmer Jan 2012 #17
btw, I do have to say you subject line is a little harsh, tis easier to catch flies with honey than stockholmer Jan 2012 #19
I was responding to the poster's "sweetly" condescending tone of voice. AdHocSolver Jan 2012 #26
You know so little for someone with a degree banned from Kos Jan 2012 #28
Logic and facts are wasted on those with a closed mind Major Nikon Jan 2012 #34
LOLOL!!!--> "not to monkey with the yield curve" ahhh Operation Twist? go study up, as in Econ 101 stockholmer Jan 2012 #40
Ya gotta love it when someone says, "you really need to read up..." Major Nikon Jan 2012 #42
typical, so typical, you didn't address one thing of subtance, the bottom line is the poster stockholmer Jan 2012 #44
So why can't you find any liberal or even moderate sources to back up your claims? Major Nikon Jan 2012 #47
Dr Steve Keen, Dr Michael Hudson, Dr Hyman Minsky, Dr Donald Markwell, Dr Paul Ormerod etc stockholmer Jan 2012 #49
You also claimed Ron Paul doesn't advocate a return to a gold standard, except that he does Major Nikon Jan 2012 #50
Paul (I do not support him, btw) does not advocate a return to gold standard, he stockholmer Jan 2012 #18
And the "competing currency" is based on gold Major Nikon Jan 2012 #27
Perhaps a return to the basic functions of the Fed may help you banned from Kos Jan 2012 #30
Nationalize the Fed, rip it away from the private money changers who own it and you, here they are: stockholmer Jan 2012 #39
You're parroting a free market loon who claims Social Security is "One of the Great Scams!" Major Nikon Jan 2012 #43
again, you offer NOTHING of substance, nothing of factual rebuttal, just more tired false ad hominem stockholmer Jan 2012 #45
The author you parroted damn sure did have something to say about Social Security being a scam Major Nikon Jan 2012 #48
btw, in this post (on this very same thread) I attack Paul hard from THE LEFT stockholmer Jan 2012 #46
You don't have to be a Libertarian to understand the evil behind this Zalatix Jan 2012 #41
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Oh noes! The Occupy movement sullied by Paul! Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #5
Since OWS has no agenda and no leadership... randome Jan 2012 #9
Except the message. Galraedia Jan 2012 #10
True, not to mention the OWS message boards and other social media outlets. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #38
I've always thought that a lot of the conspiracy stuff is CIA dirty tricks Enrique Jan 2012 #11
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"sham 2 party system" - spoken like a true ZeroHead enthusiast where Ron Paul is supreme banned from Kos Jan 2012 #33
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Oh, yeah, that's brilliant. randome Jan 2012 #20
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As well they shouldn't. joshcryer Jan 2012 #25
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