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101. a good academic article discussing aggression in dogs...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:35 PM
Feb 2013

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/14810086/Heritability-of-Behavior-in-the-Abnormally-Aggressive-Dog-by-A-Semyonova

Probably everyone understands that all of the dog breeds we have created are a result of our own manipulation of inherited physical traits. Until recently, most of us recognized that much of the behavior of pure bred dogs is also a result of manipulating inheritance: if you want to do sheep trials, you get a border collie; if you get a beagle, he will likely become instantly deaf to your calls if he picks up a scent to track. Once the discussion started about perhaps banning breeds that, as a breed, have a high tendency to attack and kill, everything got confused. People started to dispute the heritability of any kind of behavior in dogs, let alone killing behavior...

You will also not prevent the dog from being what he is genetically predisposed to be. Because the inbred postures and behaviors feel good, fitting the body and brain the dog has been bred with, they are internally motivated and internally rewarded. This means that the behavior is practically impossible to extinguish by manipulating external environmental stimuli. The reward is not in the environment, but in the dog itself! As Coppinger and Coppinger (2001, p. 202) put it, “The dog gets such pleasure out of performing its motor pattern that it keeps looking for places to display it.” Some dogs get stuck in their particular inbred motor pattern. We are all familiar with the golden retriever who just will not come out of the water, the border collie who escapes every afternoon to herd the children at the school playground, and the pointer who gets stuck in his point (sometimes for hours, until the owner finally finds him standing there frozen in the woods – a not uncommon problem during training and competitions)...

The heritability of abnormal aggression in certain breeds of dogs can no longer be denied. We have, first of all, to do with physical conformation. The bodies of these dogs have been selected to be able to execute the killing bite better and more efficiently than other breeds of dogs. These dogs all share a certain physical conformation to the task of killing: the exaggerated jaw muscles, heavy necks and shoulder areas, and body mass that makes defence against an attack much more difficult, often impossible. It remains a fact that if you want a dog who can kill, these are the breeds of choice because they are physically better fit for it than other breeds – no less than the border collie is best fit for herding sheep because of the particular way his body has been shaped by hundreds of years of selective breeding.

But breeders also selected for behavioral conformation. For hundreds of years, they have selected these dogs on the basis of performance for their specific task. To perform well, the pit-fighters had to attack without provocation or warning in a sudden outburst of unbridled aggression and to continue attacking regardless of the responses of the other. The bull- and bear-baiters had to be willing to attack in the absence of species-specific signs that normally provoke aggression, responding to the mere presence of another species, again not stopping in the response to any external stimuli. The dogs used to guard extended farmlands in such countries as France (the Bordeaux) or South Africa (the Boerbull), the slave-chasers (Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasiliero), they were all selected for killing performance at the sight of strangers of another species – thus again a willingness to attack in the absence of the normal signals that provoke aggression in a dog and the unwillingness to stop (sometimes even after the other is long dead).

The bodies and brains of all these breeds have, just like the pointer, the husky, the greyhound and the border collie, been selected so that certain postures and behaviors just simply feel good. These dogs will seek opportunities to execute the behaviors they've been bred for, just simply because the behavior feels good. The behaviors are internally motivated and rewarded, thus the behaviors are not subject to extinction. Learning and socialization do not play a role and will not prevent the behaviors from appearing. The owner of such a dog might hope that learning and socialization could help the behavior to appear only at appropriate moments, however this is unrealistic. It’s also not realistic to pretend that impulsive aggression is not pathological. The environments (the fighting pit, the baited bull, the escaping slave) for which these behaviors were selected as an adaptive response are so extreme that in fact there is no appropriate context for these behaviors in normal life.Functional in the pit or facing the bear, these behaviors must, in all other contexts, be called pathological. In addition, the fact we now know that selection took place for impulsive aggressivity (Peremans 2002) means, by definition, that the behavior will always emerge suddenly and unpredictably, thus always escaping secure control by the owner of such a dog.

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No surprise about the Cihuahuas -- a neighbor had two of the nasty little things. FarCenter Feb 2013 #1
i have a chihuahua` barbtries Feb 2013 #5
I've heard of nice ones, but I've yet to personally meet one that was disciplined Posteritatis Feb 2013 #39
They seem very devoted to a particular person in my experience. Liberal Veteran Feb 2013 #44
You are correct. My Chihuahua is devoted to just me. RebelOne Feb 2013 #51
My 80 year old father Jenoch Feb 2013 #153
I've fostered several Chihuahuas and never had a problem LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #46
I immediately thought Chihuahua too. Martin Eden Feb 2013 #91
There is a joke told by a Hispanic comedian that says mykpart Feb 2013 #116
More biting means less cats, leading to more birds NoOneMan Feb 2013 #2
My neighbor's yappy little JRTDs are no match for my 15-pound Attack Cats slackmaster Feb 2013 #30
Good...more cats mean more happiness...nt joeybee12 Feb 2013 #32
^This^ Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #54
I have one Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #151
I'll put any kitteh I have ever known against a doxie. Brigid Feb 2013 #155
That's 'cause they hate being called "weiner dogs". Scuba Feb 2013 #3
Yep, they get PO'ed about all the weiner jokes!!! I told mine RKP5637 Feb 2013 #133
I could deal with an out of control wiener dog, pit bull notsomuch NightWatcher Feb 2013 #4
If you ever encounter a pissed-off Standard Dachsund DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #7
I once spent 45 mins sitting on top of a friend's desk NightWatcher Feb 2013 #35
Agree about the Standard Dachshund mike dub Feb 2013 #122
LOL...I have friends who have a German Shepherd mix and a terrier mix TheCruces Feb 2013 #158
LOL OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #162
You have to be able to catch them first. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #12
Never had to deal with an attacking animal, have you? Scootaloo Feb 2013 #56
I've taken on plenty of dogs over the years hfojvt Feb 2013 #119
No surprise about Dachshunds -- and nice post and picture, Scootaloo mike dub Feb 2013 #121
Opossums are sweeties, actually Scootaloo Feb 2013 #128
possums are hilarious, too BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #139
I have to disagree about rottweilers. I found them to be the most dangerous breed to work on in kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #6
I have had 4 Rotts. They all loved our Vet and showered him with kisses. appleannie1 Feb 2013 #29
then again ajk2821 Feb 2013 #105
The techs at my vet's office told me the same thing. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #154
I worked in a kennel and the breed I didn't trust was the Chows TheCruces Feb 2013 #159
Much of this probably still comes down to the owners ... surrealAmerican Feb 2013 #8
Not true. I have had my Chihuahua since she was 6 weeks old. RebelOne Feb 2013 #14
... and does she bite people anyway? ... surrealAmerican Feb 2013 #17
No, it did not work. I think it is just in her nature. RebelOne Feb 2013 #50
I hope he stops breeding. roody Feb 2013 #98
I totally believe that, it's been my experience that smaller dogs in general are more aggressive. Kalidurga Feb 2013 #9
Yes, I can agree that the most aggressive of all breeds is the Chihuahua. RebelOne Feb 2013 #10
Our neighbors had Rottweilers. They were scared shitless of them....and we were more so. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #11
I have 2 Rottweilers and they are a perfect dog. RebelOne Feb 2013 #21
The article cites "a new study by Applied Animal Behavior Science" ... DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #13
I had a Jack and we have a Chihuahua/Pincer DainBramaged Feb 2013 #19
I had the unpleasant experience of having a surly Yorkie-Poo in my house for several months slackmaster Feb 2013 #15
It would be interesting to see if there's a link between docility and breeding tasks RZM Feb 2013 #16
Some of the nicest dogs I've ever met Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #24
Chihuahua was my first thought, some make me think of piranhas. Fierce little things. freshwest Feb 2013 #18
A dachshund is a wolf hound stuffed into a sock. X_Digger Feb 2013 #25
No lack of self-confidence there! freshwest Feb 2013 #27
It would take a doxie to do this.. to a lion.. (Warning: potentially NSWF) X_Digger Feb 2013 #33
Huh, just read the description. Didn't need that... freshwest Feb 2013 #40
Our dachshund is the same way at the vet! mike dub Feb 2013 #126
And all doxie owners' response? "Well duh!" LOL n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #20
I have a ChiJack mix PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #22
I've never had the big dog ever try to attack me MrScorpio Feb 2013 #23
I have always called chihuahuas ankle biters and given them a wide berth if possible. appleannie1 Feb 2013 #26
Yes, I have a Chihuahua and they are deinitely ankle biters, RebelOne Feb 2013 #57
So, how many people have been mauled to death by dachshunds or chihuahuas? eallen Feb 2013 #28
How many children have been mauled to death by chihuahuas and/or dachsunds? Bandit Feb 2013 #31
My cousin's nutty Jack Russell is always nipping at everything...... marmar Feb 2013 #34
No surprise...I have a pit, and I'm confident if you met her, you'd love her! dorkzilla Feb 2013 #36
I have a terrier mix Carolina Feb 2013 #37
One of our rescues was like that re food.. it was a real chore. X_Digger Feb 2013 #41
it's amazing how Carolina Feb 2013 #166
I guessed 2/3 the Chihuahua and the Jack Russell. The dachshunds were a surprise to me. TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #38
I have a terrier-maltese mix FirstLight Feb 2013 #42
Total-cutie-pie alert! mike dub Feb 2013 #134
And yet the statistics say otherwise. Nine Feb 2013 #43
dogbites.org doesn't have to most stellar reputation dorkzilla Feb 2013 #45
Thanks so much for the link! smokey nj Feb 2013 #48
My pleasure! dorkzilla Feb 2013 #74
Newfies were as well. smokey nj Feb 2013 #75
Newfies?! *snort* dorkzilla Feb 2013 #76
Yup, Newfies! smokey nj Feb 2013 #84
Only because you disagree with them. But they did not compile those stats anyway. Nine Feb 2013 #52
If I have a source for dog bite statistics that I think is more accurate? Are you kidding? dorkzilla Feb 2013 #70
Don't bother with that one, it obviously has an agenda. smokey nj Feb 2013 #72
My agenda is to have less of this: Nine Feb 2013 #82
BSL and breed bans won't prevent that. smokey nj Feb 2013 #85
In your opinion. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #97
What you attached contained no statistics. Nine Feb 2013 #81
It is 233 pages of statistics, a detailed listing of dog attacks going back to the 1860s... dorkzilla Feb 2013 #103
and ending at 1975. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #123
No.it.does.not. dorkzilla Feb 2013 #131
page number please? (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #132
I've had enough of this. Read it yourself, it's there. dorkzilla Feb 2013 #136
It's 233 pages, you can't give me a page number? (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #137
You are sure right. Jack Sprat Feb 2013 #47
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. baldguy Feb 2013 #80
I agree. Repeating lies doesn't make them true. Nine Feb 2013 #95
Reading comprehension is clearly not your strong suit dorkzilla Feb 2013 #106
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #108
Oh for goodness sake, OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #163
The dogs that tended to bite when I fostered LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #49
Not surprised at all. Little dogs' neuroses are too often supported. I've been bitten three times. nolabear Feb 2013 #53
As a kid, had a Chihuahua that literally kicked a German Shepherd's rear. Hoyt Feb 2013 #55
Dachsunds are nippy. So are Collies. I'd bet Pomeranians are high up too. DirkGently Feb 2013 #58
I dunno about aggressive, but the top 3 for stubborn are Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #59
No way independentpiney Feb 2013 #71
You said it. surrealAmerican Feb 2013 #99
We say that about our doxies.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #100
And I'd add Dachshunds to that list as well. n/t AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #109
+1 n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #114
Ours has finally accepted the concept of housebreaking after three years. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #117
As I mentioned elsewhere.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #118
Pit Bulls were once used to look after children. They were referred to an Nanny Dogs notadmblnd Feb 2013 #60
not this crap again Nine Feb 2013 #64
Ahem DainBramaged Feb 2013 #66
I apologize. Nine Feb 2013 #125
Yes, it is true. baldguy Feb 2013 #89
My miniature dachshund is vicious when it comes to toys. Solly Mack Feb 2013 #61
LOL! X_Digger Feb 2013 #65
That's determination! I'm constantly sewing up toys. Solly Mack Feb 2013 #68
With two doxies and one doxie-mix, we don't have enough thread. ;) X_Digger Feb 2013 #69
Mine destroyed a plastic squeak toy in about a minute. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #107
I have a chihuahua and he's a sugar... a la izquierda Feb 2013 #62
When I was a kid, we had two neighbors with lots of dogs. OnionPatch Feb 2013 #63
big dogs energumen Feb 2013 #67
I've seen my own cat do that to a golden retriever Aerows Feb 2013 #112
i still have a cat energumen Feb 2013 #120
Yes, while dogs have "owners, cats have "staff". SharonAnn Feb 2013 #140
Nasty little yip-yip dogs, all 3 breeds AnnieBW Feb 2013 #73
I'm pretty sure I can fend-off a Jack Russel Terrier in a fair fight. n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #77
But pitt bull defenders never want to acknowledge that Aerows Feb 2013 #79
Even if you could prove that the breed is not more aggressive or bad-tempered than others... Ian David Feb 2013 #86
Ever tried to shake a Jack off your ankle? DainBramaged Feb 2013 #90
Off your ankle? Aerows Feb 2013 #96
A pit bull is not a "humongous dog" TheCruces Feb 2013 #160
The difference Aerows Feb 2013 #78
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #92
I don't want to be cured Aerows Feb 2013 #127
not sure how people lose sight of that fact (your first sentence), it's all that needs said Divine Discontent Feb 2013 #94
The pit bull has the least biting power of those three breeds TheCruces Feb 2013 #161
However, people looking to train a dog in agression will gravitate toward larger breeds. nt cprise Feb 2013 #83
I am so NOT surprised. Warpy Feb 2013 #87
Could it be that pitbulls are kept more isolated than daschunds? Gentle-man Feb 2013 #88
I've had three Jack Russell's Lurks Often Feb 2013 #93
a good academic article discussing aggression in dogs... Nine Feb 2013 #101
Don't even bother. defacto7 Feb 2013 #141
I think you're probably right. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #144
I've had Dachshunds all my life and the LibGranny Feb 2013 #102
No surrpise at all about the Dachshund. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #104
I've been snapped at a hundred times annoying little yapper dogs...never once by a big dog tjwash Feb 2013 #110
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2013 #111
not surprised about the obvious stereotyped ones PatrynXX Feb 2013 #113
I think we agree that bigger dogs cause more damage, which should always be a concern. Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #115
happened all the time with our great dane d_r Feb 2013 #138
The 12 or more countries that ban breeds like pits aren't likely to be impressed whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #124
No surprise; elleng Feb 2013 #129
I'm on my third dachshund, never had one bite anybody. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #130
One of the sweetest dogs I have ever had was a cross between asjr Feb 2013 #135
The study on which this article is based may be flawed... DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #142
Responsibility. defacto7 Feb 2013 #143
Doxies, Chihuahuas and Jack Russells are small dogs with minimal jaw power. Walk away Feb 2013 #145
I am not surprised! burrowowl Feb 2013 #146
And yet, Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #147
I was bitten age 5 by a Dachsund with a scar on my right cheek to prove it PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #148
Not surprised at all.. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #149
I grew up around a rotweiller liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #150
There is NO more aggressive breed than this one! Kennah Feb 2013 #152
ok datasuspect Feb 2013 #167
Dobes are big babies! kysrsoze Feb 2013 #156
Sweetest dog I ever had -Standard Dachshund named Polly No Vested Interest Feb 2013 #157
I knew a terrier would be on the list BainsBane Feb 2013 #164
I have 3 dachshunds RockaFowler Feb 2013 #165
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