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Octafish

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21. Slate says they're complicated people.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jan 2012

Progressive. Liberal. Enterprising. Quiet.



What Do Herbert and Marion Sandler Want?

Investigating the funders of ProPublica, the new investigative journalism outfit.

By Jack Shafer|Posted Monday, Oct. 15, 2007, at 10:45 PM ET
Slate.com

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What do the Sandlers want for their millions? Perhaps to return us to the days of the partisan press. The couple made their fortune, which Forbes estimates at $1.2 billion, at Golden West Financial Corp. In recent years, they've spent millions on politics. The Federal Election Commission database shows the two of them giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic Party campaigns. In 2004, Herbert Sandler gave the MoveOn.org Voter Fund $2.5 million, again according to the FEC database. The Center for Responsive Politics Web site reports donations of $8.5 million from Herbert and Marion to the 527 group Citizens for a Strong Senate, in the 2004 cycle. CSS was formed by "a group of strategists with close ties to former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards," writes the washingtonpost.com's Chris Cillizza. American Banker reported in 2005 that Herbert also gave $1 million to the California stem cell initiative and that the pair have also funded the progressive Center for American Progress.

The Sandlers' enthusiasm for journalism and journalists is late in arriving. Back in April 1992, at the American Society of Newspaper Editors' annual convention, Marion ascribed partial blame for the savings and loan disaster to the press. "Where were you when it was happening?" she asked, according to a story by the Chicago Tribune's James Warren. Her husband accused the press of making "stars out of bums and charlatans" like swindler Charles Keating. "The press is susceptible to the Big Lie, no matter how patently nonsensical," Herbert said.

What sort of assistance did the Sandlers give the press to get to the bottom of the S&L scandal while it was happening? Um, not much. Warren writes, "Herbert Sandler conceded that, apart from being an occasional anonymous source for one Wall Street Journal reporter, he declined to help journalists as much as he probably should have."

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The Savings and Loan crisis is a subject near and dear to me. It's been my experience that the FSLIC bailout of the early 90s was a practice-run for the great Wall Street bailout of 2008-2012.

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Good research, thank you. There should be no settlement for criminals who sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #1
The Fat Cats paid for their 'Get Out of Jail Free' cards. Octafish Jan 2012 #3
I don't doubt it at all. This has to change, the whole system is nothing but a joke sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #5
Sabrina, the OP links to a right wing site that trackes liberals and liberal organizations. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #7
Hi Luminous Animal. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #11
His link goes to ActivistCash.com which goes after... as they put it... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #14
K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #2
BofA Settles GSE Buyback Requests for Pennies on the Dollar Octafish Jan 2012 #4
You linked to a right-wing site that tracks liberals and liberal organizations. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #6
Thank you for the heads-up, Luminous Animal. I don't like rightwing sites. Octafish Jan 2012 #8
11 recs for info sourced from a right wing website. Unbelievable. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #9
OK. I admit it: I, too, got scammed by an Astroturf company keeping track of Astroturf companies. Octafish Jan 2012 #10
Except it is far more complicated than what they present... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #12
The Sandlers must be outstanding people. Octafish Jan 2012 #15
Okey-doke. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #18
Slate says they're complicated people. Octafish Jan 2012 #21
Are you accusing the Center for Responible Lending of being an astroturf organization? Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #13
I have belonged to some of those organizations, as well as the ACLU. Octafish Jan 2012 #16
Their actual stance on the deal is a bit more complicated than presented in the article. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #17
The cited site's stated mission is deplorable, but, even a broken clock is right twice a day. T S Justly Jan 2012 #19
Listen, I am not here to defend the wealthy. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #20
Thank you for both resources. Should I change the OP to make clear my bad source? Octafish Jan 2012 #22
That's up to you. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #23
Revised and edited to reflect a more neutral perspective. Octafish Jan 2012 #24
You'te one post away, Buster ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #25
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