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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Rude Pundit: Things in the Memo on the Killing of Americans ... [View all]
That Liberals Would Scream About If Bush Was PresidentNow that a 16-page memo was leaked to NBC News that details the "legal" justification for targeted drone strikes on American citizens abroad, Obama-supporting liberals (like yours truly) have to confront, in vivid, concrete ways, the actions of a White House that, if a Republican were in office, would cause us to spew blood vendettas against those responsible. Oh, wait. When a Republican was in office, we spewed those oaths over the detention and torture of Americans and others. Now we're up to stone cold murder. We should be even more outraged. The fact that a Democrat is president does not change that.
The memo itself contains chilling passages - denial of rights, bureaucratic redefinitions of words, and the manipulative citing of court cases. Check it out:
1. "Were the target of a lethal operation a U.S. citizen who may have rights under the Due Process Clause and the Fourth Amendment, that individual's citizenship would not immunize him from a lethal operation." Why? Because the government would be "forestalling the threat of violence" by killing the fuck out the American. You got that? Not "forestalling violence," but "forestalling the threat." The Rude Pundit's neighbor is an asshole who owns a gun. He feels the threat of violence every day. Where's his drone strike? Oh, yeah, rights do exist then.
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5. The use of the Supreme Court decisions in Tennessee v. Garner and Haig v. Agee. The former actually limited the use of deadly force by the police against fleeing suspects, although this memo cites the decision as supporting the killing of Americans abroad. The latter case gave the government broader latitude to take away passports from citizens. Apparently, when an American is made into a meaty paste by a drone missile, the computer jockey who fired it is allowed to say, "Passport revoked" in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice.
6. "A lawful killing in self-defense is not an assassination...a lethal operation conducted against a U.S. citizen whose conduct poses an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States would be a legitimate act of national self-defense that would not violate the assassination ban." But remember: "imminent" doesn't mean "imminent" in any sense that we would normally understand "imminent." So, hey, why the fuck not say that an assassination is not really an assassination?
Republicans will have hearings when someone in the Obama administration farts too loudly. Think they'll actually have the balls to have a fair hearing on this? And if they're willing to do this, let's not forget about all this shit they let the previous administration get away with. The nation is now filthy with hypocrites.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2013/02/things-in-memo-on-killing-of-americans.html
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It's called paranoia. It's an illness, and it seems to have infected our government.
JDPriestly
Feb 2013
#4
This is a topic for which the Rude Pundit's style is totally appropriate.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#11
Well, that's right--if Americans in this country were actively engaged in a terror plot, and could
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#24
No--but you have no 4th amendment rights if you are a non-custodial enemy combatant. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#89
Certainly a non-custodial enemy combatant has rights. Just not under the 4th. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#94
You forget your American history. The Barbary pirates were not a nation state
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#106
Massacres perpetrated by domestic right-wing extremists who have been incited to acting out their
indepat
Feb 2013
#50
Given that FBI agents were rooming with a couple of the 9/11 hijackers at one point--
eridani
Feb 2013
#72
Yet the things we WANT Obama to do he can't because "the President doesn't have that much power"
FiveGoodMen
Feb 2013
#77
There is of course some awkwardness in the legal language that is ripe for lambast...
ellisonz
Feb 2013
#17
Greenwald will post, thus saving many from actually having to read what they are outraged over.
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#28
I think there are political, moral, and strategic arguments that can be made against the policy...
ellisonz
Feb 2013
#83
Evidence they chose to align with anyone? This isn't one person but rather policy.
TheKentuckian
Feb 2013
#48
The list is a secret, you have no evidence. The process is secret and unsupervised, you have no
TheKentuckian
Feb 2013
#102
1. The Rude Pundit can call the police on his neighbor if he feels that they are a threat
Freddie Stubbs
Feb 2013
#25
Glenn Greenwald, "Expanding the concept of "imminence" beyond recognition"
Luminous Animal
Feb 2013
#27
You cannot be a fugitive beyond justice when you aren't indicted or charged
TheKentuckian
Feb 2013
#52
Other than those right-wingy thingys, I love virtually everything our President has
indepat
Feb 2013
#46