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BainsBane

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122. Guns kill

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:29 PM

Feb 2013

That is their purpose and the reason for their design. They have no other function. If your intent is something else, you're using the wrong instrument. Gun safety should indeed be a requirement for gun owners, for ADULTS. But to federalize teaching children to shoot is repulsive. Your efforts to evangelize gun culture are not acceptable.

Spare your face palm. The idea that you people would propose such a thing makes me physically ill. It's not enough we have the highest murder rate in the industrialized world and that more pre-school age children die from guns than police on active duty. You insist on further gun proliferation, promoting policies that can only lead to more deaths of children. Is it completely impossible to get past your fetish for guns long enough to think about children's lives? Not everyone wants their children to lead a life that revolves around violence. We have a right for our children to learn in a safe environment, not one filled with guns to satisfy the bloodlust of the gun lobby.

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3-year-old boy fatally shot in the head after finding pink gun [View all] Robb Feb 2013 OP

i honestly don't know ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #1

I don't know about state laws michreject Feb 2013 #137

wow...did not know that ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #139

Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Feb 2013 #2

People who know better are a huge part of the problem. Robb Feb 2013 #5

If stupid people didn't reproduce, that would prevent their children from dying needlessly. slackmaster Feb 2013 #6

Give It A Rest, Slack. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #12

I haven't finished pissing you off yet, Paladin slackmaster Feb 2013 #13

If stupid people didn't reproduce, that would prevent us from the plague of Wayne LaPierre. blue neen Feb 2013 #87

If stupid people didn't have access to guns.... Walk away Feb 2013 #131

A lot of fucking good it would have done here Tempest Feb 2013 #9

You're talking to a spambot SecularMotion Feb 2013 #82

Holy cows. That's pretty revealing. Thank you for posting. n/t Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #101

Its a message that bears repeating. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #107

Wow. Chorophyll Feb 2013 #116

Maybe people who are too stupid to properly store a gun MH1 Feb 2013 #30

Maybe people who don't store guns safely should be held accountable for their crimes BlueStreak Feb 2013 #61

don't they charge parents who leave their kids in a hot car ? JI7 Feb 2013 #115

'deed they do. And don't we require every car owner to hold an active insurance policy? BlueStreak Feb 2013 #138

Some of us who are old enough to reproduce don't keep guns around. Chorophyll Feb 2013 #56

"Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools" LondonReign2 Feb 2013 #63

My suggestion was that the parents should have been taught basic gun safety slackmaster Feb 2013 #66

Your suggestion is silly LondonReign2 Feb 2013 #75

Your ideas are authoritarian slackmaster Feb 2013 #79

LOL LondonReign2 Feb 2013 #85

Once you start requiring a license in order to own something, owning it is no longer a right slackmaster Feb 2013 #86

It doesn't infringe on your rights whatsoever LondonReign2 Feb 2013 #88

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #89

It doesn't answer the question LondonReign2 Feb 2013 #91

"Your intent is pure evil" - There you have it, fellow DU'ers: sensible gun legislation is "pure apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #94

Hyperbole much? Your obsession with firearms is pure psychosis. nt Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #104

give me convenience, or give me death frylock Feb 2013 #90

You call a license evil BainsBane Feb 2013 #118

slackmaster, you are simply wrong... Sancho Feb 2013 #93

The license fee allows me to use my vehicle on public access roads energumen Feb 2013 #125

Actually, in my state, Missouri, there is a personal property tax logosoco Feb 2013 #77

Some states charge sales tax on food slackmaster Feb 2013 #80

But there is no enumerated right in the constitution that guarantees you affordable food. Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #106

Exactly... Sancho Feb 2013 #92

I really dont understand the objection to basic gun safety for children. energumen Feb 2013 #130

Only voluntary after school IMO. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #65

guns should be no where near schools BainsBane Feb 2013 #120

LOL, over the top much. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #121

How is it over the top? BainsBane Feb 2013 #123

The anti-gun rants are as nutty as the gun rants at times. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #126

my rants don't lead to deaths BainsBane Feb 2013 #127

Telling kids to stay away from guns they see in a friends house or a uncles house is not stupid.... Logical Feb 2013 #133

I think it's just plain old laziness. Ganja Ninja Feb 2013 #72

anyone who needs to be taught in a class to know not to leave a gun with a 3 year old JI7 Feb 2013 #113

that gets to the heart of it. Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #134

in schools? That is completely twisted BainsBane Feb 2013 #117

You have an odd sense of what gun safety is. ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #119

Guns kill BainsBane Feb 2013 #122

You still don't get it. ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #135

If you need schooling to tell you not to leave a pink gun, that looks like a toy, in a place Squinch Feb 2013 #129

Not just a pink handgun, but a *loaded* pink handgun which was accessible to children. Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #3

They should be fined and their guns should be taken away proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #55

When their negligence results in the death or injury of a child, or anyone else for that matter, Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #67

I don`t give a crap what anyone thinks,there is no reason to make a real gun to appear libtodeath Feb 2013 #4

So should the mother. I'm sure the pink gun belonged to her. Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #99

Exactly,the same should apply in every incident like this when a gun is not locked up. libtodeath Feb 2013 #105

I had to go look for images for this story. Who the hell NEEDS a pink gun??? davsand Feb 2013 #7

A serious answer for your cogitation slackmaster Feb 2013 #8

Makes sense to have non-functional mock-ups for training. davsand Feb 2013 #10

I think people who do that are trying to express their individuality slackmaster Feb 2013 #11

Give It A Rest, Slack. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #15

+100 nt Chorophyll Feb 2013 #58

Sure expressed their individuality well - we all know it was THEIR kid that got shot. jmg257 Feb 2013 #19

Yeah, I can hardly think of a better way to say "I'm a criminally negligent asshole." than owning EOTE Feb 2013 #69

There may be almost as many people who would attempt to rationale it... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #71

Ah, you have not seen the Hello Kitty AR-15 mod jberryhill Feb 2013 #14

And some of us wonder how the gun culture got so f**ked up... davsand Feb 2013 #18

Well, from the gunmaker's standpoint: Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #108

And from a cigarette maker's standpoint, Joe Camel was great for selling smokes DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #112

Yeah, I know... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #114

That absolutely looks like a toy gollygee Feb 2013 #16

I don't care what it looks like. It's a deadly weapon and must be kept secured at all times. slackmaster Feb 2013 #22

Too bad that Glock's idea of a "safety" is f*cked jberryhill Feb 2013 #43

the target market is women. Whisp Feb 2013 #31

I shoot with a lady friend michreject Feb 2013 #136

This is why I've always thought "toy colored" guns are a bad idea. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #17

Absolutely without question. Initech Feb 2013 #132

Maybe we need universal IQ TESTS HockeyMom Feb 2013 #20

This is where the law needs to change leftynyc Feb 2013 #21

It probably could be under Criminally Negligent Homicide HockeyMom Feb 2013 #35

I believe that this probably is illegal. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #96

That's the jury's problem leftynyc Feb 2013 #109

When determining to press charges or not it is the prosecutors problem. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #110

I've seen dozens of posts on DU suggesting guns should be required to be pink Recursion Feb 2013 #23

The color is appalling, but really not the problem. Robb Feb 2013 #24

Yes, accidents with found guns are how most child firearm deaths happen Recursion Feb 2013 #25

How exactly does the NRA's national education program "work" to prevent this? Robb Feb 2013 #26

By teaching kids "Don't Touch, Leave the Area, Tell an Adult Immediately" Recursion Feb 2013 #27

Forgive me, but who found it to be effective? Robb Feb 2013 #28

You mean you never heard of Eddie the Eagle? Rex Feb 2013 #32

Lots of law enforcement agencies have. Academy of Pediatrics is ambivalent Recursion Feb 2013 #36

So no data, you just hear tell the NRA program is a good one. Robb Feb 2013 #39

You're right. It's stupid to teach kids not to touch guns. Recursion Feb 2013 #42

No, it's stupid to entrust our children's safety with the N fucking RA. Robb Feb 2013 #45

Then get one of the organizations that allegedly cares about this to do something Recursion Feb 2013 #47

You think the NRA cares about our children? Really? Robb Feb 2013 #50

Yes Recursion Feb 2013 #52

Yeah, and BP didn't want an oil spill. Robb Feb 2013 #59

+1 Rex Feb 2013 #81

It's not that they WANT them to be shot: it's that they simply don't care if in ANY WAY apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #95

Funny, my PARENTS taught me that, and neither was an NRA member, MH1 Feb 2013 #34

I just discovered on my own that firearms are dangerous. Rex Feb 2013 #51

Troublingly, if the NRA didn't see to it that so many Americans were brainwashed into thinking Chorophyll Feb 2013 #60

It appears to only be offered to children from pre-k to 3rd grade. Rex Feb 2013 #29

Mmhm. And what are VPC or Brady doing to teach kids not to touch guns? Recursion Feb 2013 #33

So after 3rd grade you are on your own? Rex Feb 2013 #38

I give up. You're right. It's stupid to teach kids not to touch guns Recursion Feb 2013 #40

Why? You don't like what I point out so you 'give up'? Rex Feb 2013 #44

No,just bs is called bs when it is posted libtodeath Feb 2013 #49

No, but it's stupid to invite the NRA in to do it. Chorophyll Feb 2013 #62

Please see the chart below; accidents are not "the number one gun-related killer of children." Robb Feb 2013 #41

Also, accidents are terrible, but they are not "most" deaths for children Robb Feb 2013 #37

Thank you. I misremembered. *obviously* it's OK for only 3000 children to die by firearm accident Recursion Feb 2013 #46

The Eddie Eagle "Safety" Program is just more NRA lobbying/promotional BS. Hoyt Feb 2013 #48

You know...all that talk about guns and yet Rex Feb 2013 #54

I was under the impression Project ChildSafe is neither sponsored by, not affiliated with the NRA LanternWaste Feb 2013 #73

We are all egocentric to some extent. Rex Feb 2013 #74

Cool, didn't know about that one Recursion Feb 2013 #76

Often, when I lack absolute information on a thing LanternWaste Feb 2013 #100

The National Shooting Sports Foundation is also a RW political action committee. Robb Feb 2013 #78

My only point being that the NRA is not indeed the only national education program for firearm safet LanternWaste Feb 2013 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Robb Feb 2013 #103

To all of the responders who were so upset that this gun was pink: SheilaT Feb 2013 #53

Remember when Asshat Nancy reagan revealed she carried a gun? joeybee12 Feb 2013 #57

NO CHARGES???? Didn't it belong to someone who made it available to kids???? nt valerief Feb 2013 #64

The gun's owner, if s/he can be found, needs to be charged with kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #68

Ya-da-ya-da-ya-da rightsideout Feb 2013 #70

Tell me again what part libodem Feb 2013 #83

And in Florida, it would have been illegal for this family's pediatrician Tanuki Feb 2013 #84

I know doctors in FL can't ask, but can they Ilsa Feb 2013 #111

It would be nice if there were televised PSAs about gun safety LeftInTX Feb 2013 #97

Whoever left that gun out should go to prison for manslaughter (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #102

Yep. And the manufacturer needs to be sued for making a lethal weapon that looks like a toy. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2013 #124

Another tragedy brought to you by a responsible gun owner AndyA Feb 2013 #128