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JDPriestly

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47. I do not support the idea that any president can order the murder of an American citizen.

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:04 AM

Feb 2013

A judge can order a criminal penalty in compliance with the law and following due process.

No president has the authority to try, sentence and execute an American citizen. That is my opinion.

If our government wants to change the guarantees of the Bill of Rights, let them amend the Constitution. And then let's evaluate and elect or not the people who voted for and against the amendment.

If "times have changed" and the president needs this authority, we should change the Constitution so that there are checks and balances on the exercise of that authority. As it is, the presidency is claiming a power that can be exercised arbitrarily, unfairly, not at all, willy-nilly. There is no Constitutional basis for this in my opinion. Therefore, in my opinion, it is not within the framework of our rule of law.

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The Million-Ton Gorilla [View all] Bonobo Feb 2013 OP

I won't waste my vote in protest like some did in 2000. Just say NEVER AGAIN. graham4anything Feb 2013 #1

Yeah why would we have to worry about a non-democrat becoming president? Bonobo Feb 2013 #2

People shouldn't have tossed LBJ aside in 1968. Might have been 53 straight years & counting graham4anything Feb 2013 #4

Yeah, and forty more years in Vietnam, MadHound Feb 2013 #7

Nixon sabatoged the peace talks. Fact. Reagan sabatoged the hostages. Fact. graham4anything Feb 2013 #8

Gawd, you are so historically and politically illiterate I'm not even going to bother to educate you MadHound Feb 2013 #10

no, you have it backwards graham4anything Feb 2013 #37

LBJ withdrew from the race voluntarily. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #60

yeah,but the people should have demanded he run graham4anything Feb 2013 #61

You're right. Move on. Nothin' to see here. jerseyjack Feb 2013 #5

Your blame for 2000 is misplaced. Always trying to blame someone else. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #18

no, its the ones that blame our President, that are attempting to shift the blame graham4anything Feb 2013 #40

Yep, after all, the choice was Romney (or any Repuke) or a centrist, moderate "Republican".. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #52

What does it matter? MrSlayer Feb 2013 #3

We are eminently disposable, commodities to the global 1%. The question, as coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #6

It amazes me that people think this is a new practice/tactic being used by our Govt. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #9

Oh. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #12

Please link me to material regarding our previous standing assassination programs Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #51

Obviously the way to defuse these concerns about Obama's arbitrary execution powers kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #11

Nope. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #13

-1,000,000,000,000,000,000 bahrbearian Feb 2013 #14

No. Obama has reached Level 1 douchebag. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #15

Could you do me a favor? jeff47 Feb 2013 #16

Oh. And what does that have to do with anything I asked? Bonobo Feb 2013 #17

It means every single president has had this same power. jeff47 Feb 2013 #20

They may have had the power, but they were never bold enough to claim it was legal Bonobo Feb 2013 #21

So....it's better that they lied? jeff47 Feb 2013 #24

More reductionistic side-tracking. Sorry, I pass. Bonobo Feb 2013 #26

It's side tracking to point out foreigners dying to the same attacks are just as horrific? jeff47 Feb 2013 #29

No, you misread me entirely if you think that. Bonobo Feb 2013 #31

So why are you trying to give citizens magical protections? jeff47 Feb 2013 #35

I'm not and yes, there is something preventing non-citizens be killed at the discretion of the POTUS Bonobo Feb 2013 #38

No, actually assassination's legal. jeff47 Feb 2013 #41

My outrage is not limited to this president. Bonobo Feb 2013 #42

Dems in office were just dandy with it when W was doing it. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #44

Depends on whose "legal" you go by. Bonobo Feb 2013 #43

No, but it's legal under US law to do so. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #45

& right there you slipped up-you don't WANT this fixed KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #48

Yes, because you're inside my head jeff47 Feb 2013 #55

you're using a well known technique of blurring KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #58

A supected terrorist is a dead terrorist think Feb 2013 #39

yeah GUILTY BY BLOOD RELATION KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #59

Jeff is saying what I was saying above, this is nothing new. Would it make you feel better if JaneyVee Feb 2013 #25

You do not see the danger in codifying such actions? Bonobo Feb 2013 #28

All war is a lack of morality. I just can't seem to work up the paranoia about this because JaneyVee Feb 2013 #34

So can you answer the OP question? Bonobo Feb 2013 #36

that poster pointed out "many of them minorities" KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #49

I'm speaking of the police, here in America. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #53

No, I said it should expire under this administration. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #54

WTF does that have to do with the price of prunes in Peru? nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #19

It means presidents we despise already had this power jeff47 Feb 2013 #22

In the last election, who did you vote for? cliffordu Feb 2013 #23

I voted for... Bonobo Feb 2013 #27

LOL. cliffordu Feb 2013 #32

Yup. I would vote for a 3-4-5-6-7-8 term. Wish they would change the rules however graham4anything Feb 2013 #62

Yes. sagat Feb 2013 #30

FUCK NO! We use to have rights in this country. The right to live think Feb 2013 #33

No... ReRe Feb 2013 #46

I do not support the idea that any president can order the murder of an American citizen. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #47

Give them this inch, they'll take a mile. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #50

I support the rule of law RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #56

kick woo me with science Feb 2013 #57