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In reply to the discussion: If President Obama goes to war with Iran, would you be open to listening to the case for it? [View all]think
(11,641 posts)66. The best wars never happen. When Seymour Hersh
wrote in 2008 about the potential for war I believed him. I respect you may not have believed his warnings helped keep the US from acting on it's desires for war but I do:
PREPARING THE BATTLEFIELD
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.
by Seymour M. Hersh JULY 7, 2008
Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the countrys religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Irans suspected nuclear-weapons program.....
....The most outspoken of those officers is Admiral William Fallon, who until recently was the head of U.S. Central Command, and thus in charge of American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. In March, Fallon resigned under pressure, after giving a series of interviews stating his reservations about an armed attack on Iran. For example, late last year he told the Financial Times that the real objective of U.S. policy was to change the Iranians behavior, and that attacking them as a means to get to that spot strikes me as being not the first choice....
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Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh#ixzz1kiiLGtWg
Basically it comes down to a matter of opinion as to whether Hersh's actions had any relevance to whether the Bush Administration would have decided to attack or not.
After watching Bush drag us into Iraq in a preemptive war based on lies it would be difficult to judge what Bush and company was actually capable of.
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If President Obama goes to war with Iran, would you be open to listening to the case for it? [View all]
BrentWil
Jan 2012
OP
indeed. you beat me too it. though i hadn't thought of the goat thing. nt nt
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#8
Given Obama's intervention in Libya and his expansion of the war in Afghanistan...
Cali_Democrat
Jan 2012
#27
Given your distortion of the facts, I would rule out your opinion as being very valid.
TheWraith
Jan 2012
#40
A more nuanced and more likely question would be " If Israel or Iran strike the other,
morningfog
Jan 2012
#119
DU has been claiming imminent war with iran for 6 years running. it isn't going to happen.
dionysus
Jan 2012
#5
"nothing wrong with being proactively antiwar"! That's the ONLY moral position . nt
jody
Jan 2012
#29
The neocons have been trying to invade Iran for forty years. It remains a strong possibility.
BlueIris
Jan 2012
#45
i understand that. but here we used to have Sy Hersch saying all the time that he had the inside
dionysus
Jan 2012
#47
I would always be open to hear his logic, but it would be absolutely insane no matter what
teddy51
Jan 2012
#11
Only if he has his cowboy boots on and Colin Powell to back him up and flags..lots of flags.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2012
#30
I am open to LISTENING to any case for something. But unless Iran attacks us....
Honeycombe8
Jan 2012
#34
Gee, I don't know. Those sill Taliban didn't have much, eithr. Gee, I just can't guess. nt
Honeycombe8
Jan 2012
#112
The whole Iran thing smells bad, like something we've been through before ... it would take
RKP5637
Jan 2012
#36
Iran would have to directly attack Houston, TX before I'm interested in discussing your "war". nt
TBF
Jan 2012
#39
you mean a good reason like Iraq has the capacity to hit the US within so many minutes?
newspeak
Jan 2012
#114
I think it would rival Hitler's invasion of the USSR in its insanity. Exactly how
coalition_unwilling
Jan 2012
#63
There is no such thing as a righteous case for war that needs explaining.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2012
#60
Pshaww.... If President Obama wants to go to war with Iran, it's in our best interest.
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2012
#65
Not only is there no case for it--it would be one of the stupidest acts in Am. history
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2012
#69
Nukes are not useful as a deterrent against the US (or Israel) without second-strike capability
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2012
#85
Do you know WHY they might do that? Iran is being threatened with deadly sanctions
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#74
No, there is about the same reason for a war with Iran as there was for the Iraq War.
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#73
I don't know - I am a firm believer that overstretch is what brings empires down. I also will say
jwirr
Jan 2012
#97
Not no but hell no! Alot will depend on how Obama is doing in the lead up to election in November.
Citizen Worker
Jan 2012
#106
I agree, but then the question becomes what qualifies as an Iranian attack.
morningfog
Jan 2012
#117