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JohnnyRingo

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125. Technically, it changed what one could be charged with.

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:34 PM

Feb 2013

Police used to arrest people on obscenity charges for doing that. A high (Supreme?) court ruled that saying "fuck you" or extending the middle finger is unlikely to sexually arouse an officer or anyone else.

The court purposely noted in it's decision that it's more likely to provoke anger, and that's the key. While police can't charge you with public obscenity anymore, they can find another misdemeanor, like the proverbial spitting on the sidewalk. The judge didn't sentence her for disrespect, he sent her to jail for the drug offense. He has the ability to dole out punishment as he sees fit within reason, and this woman just learned that. That's why we're polite to judges.

At least she won't have to register her address every six months for a sex crime.

No lawyer would advise a client to flip a cop off or tell the judge to go fuck himself unless he was behind on his student loans or BMW payments.

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�Did You Say �F**k Me?� Judge Sentences Florida Teen To 30 Days In Jail For Cursing At Him [View all] trailmonkee Feb 2013 OP

Appropriate decision by the Judge. FarPoint Feb 2013 #1

Really? So sentenced to 30 days in jail for cussing? Judges have to much power. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #6

Sorry. That pretty much defines contempt. longship Feb 2013 #13

+1...exactly joeybee12 Feb 2013 #103

+2 Faygo Kid Feb 2013 #327

NO! A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #15

I will say one thing.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #22

It was a bail hearing. former9thward Feb 2013 #41

Public defenders are nothing more than a piece of shit 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #90

Since you have so little respect for people who marybourg Feb 2013 #160

Put me on your fucking ignore 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #168

A person has to be a fully qualified trial lawyer to get a job as a public defender slackmaster Feb 2013 #180

well you know that they do not get the money to provide anything 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #200

Life isn't fair. The poor always get the short end of the stick. Suck hind teat. Get nickel-and- slackmaster Feb 2013 #206

yes and it has turned critical 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #214

Um, let me try this Colbert style... Nine Feb 2013 #171

I have a cousin who works his underpaid and underappreciated ASS off as a PD. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #189

I have to agree with you. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #192

You ever had to use one? n/t 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #204

Sorry Kestrel, my opinion stays 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #193

I have a very dedicated public defender in my family, her clients get her full skill set and Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #278

I swear that is something I have never seen nor even heard of. 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #279

You talk as if you ave a great deal of experience with public defenders. morningfog Feb 2013 #337

Only a couple myself 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #342

Blame the system, not the public defenders doing the best they can in a faulty system. uppityperson Feb 2013 #315

yes, I can go with that and say that the system is the fault 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #321

"Public defenders are nothing more than a piece of shit" is the problem, would you edit that out? uppityperson Feb 2013 #328

That may be true in many places. All the PDs I've ever come in contact with in cali Feb 2013 #247

Wow, I wish that is what I see. 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #266

Wow. You just told two stories in which you were represented by private council you paid to Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #281

To be sure I used my husbands free attorneys for pencil pushing 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #290

Blame the system as not being work a piece of shit, not the public defenders doing the best uppityperson Feb 2013 #316

WEll, yes, they do defend obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #319

She hadn't been appointed a public defender yet... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #353

..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #70

A "Teabagging Republican"?!? A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #84

I second that emotion. nt raccoon Feb 2013 #101

Yes, but it was the way you phrased some things(that I quoted, btw) that was problematic. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #108

Let's see here; A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #118

Nice try, buddy. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #129

OK..."Buddy".....let me put it another way; A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #145

Whatever. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #155

Ask any experienced teachers here on DU if kids today have more behavior problems, Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #157

Well, as I said earlier..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #167

I respectfully suggest that you are moving the goalposts. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #174

She's not an adolescent. She's an adult of 18 and she needs to put her big girl pants on kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #196

Yes, one dictionary definition of 'adolescent' is: Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #242

Uhm... RobinA Feb 2013 #348

"Adios" is perfectly respectable - Go with god. GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #349

She's not a misbehaving "kid". She is an adult, and she committed the CRIME of kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #194

So you're calling her a thug now? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #205

I personally am tired RILib Feb 2013 #228

Just one problem. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #230

contemplate the possibility RILib Feb 2013 #235

The era of good manners. LoL Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #269

Yes, but we shouldn't be pulling the "Today's kids are all worse!" card as a certain member did..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #295

PERHAPS IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU TO READ MY ORIGINAL POST AGAIN!!! (Sorry for the shouting) A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #317

Well, I'm genuinely sorry if you thought I was accusing you of actually being a 'Bagger............. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #338

I'm a Chris Rockian centrist, I guess! Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #340

I think manners are a sign of education and a good upbringing. MADem Feb 2013 #303

I agree Skittles Feb 2013 #307

On the Contrary RobinA Feb 2013 #350

You dumb enough to lip off and laugh at a judge, you deserve whatever happens. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #86

Did any of you bother to read what I quoted? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #106

Tell you what-YOU go lip off to a judge and let me know what happens. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #110

*Sigh*. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #121

I learned a long time ago-in fact before I was 18 hobbit709 Feb 2013 #128

Again, as I said to others, the opinion itself I didn't have a problem with. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #134

LOL A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #151

Wow. Another apologist for a budding thug. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #199

He did have a good reason for doubling it: She *laughed at him* and said, "Adios," probably tblue37 Feb 2013 #240

Not quite what I saw. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #243

When a young person is in a serious situation and in the tblue37 Feb 2013 #250

..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #255

So, Joe, do you think kids today DO have manners? Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #136

The majority of kids have always been decent overall, I'd say. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #138

Well, all I can say is I disagree. You're wrong. It's not a right-wing meme Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #142

.... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #153

..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #154

Yeah, this is definitely a new phenomenon. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #311

Excuse me, but I'm a loyal Dem and I expect kids to have basic manners. Bake Feb 2013 #176

Yes, but you misread me. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #185

She's an adult, an 18 year old, not a minor, not a 'kid'. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #284

Maybe in your life. But this isn't the case when you think about us as a whole..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #305

No they don't leftynyc Feb 2013 #102

Okay, but just realize that the opinion itself, while I disagree with it, wasn't the issue.......... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #113

You accused the person of sounding like leftynyc Feb 2013 #116

Only because I've seen too many examples of this stuff out there. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #123

I happen to agree leftynyc Feb 2013 #143

I don't know how this can be proven or demonstrated with data... Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #163

LOL - I'm old also leftynyc Feb 2013 #181

I have no ideal if kids are less well mannered today than in previous times pennylane100 Feb 2013 #221

I may not have been totally clear at first..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #229

And I think AHIA was right ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #165

Well, at least you were civil about it. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #182

Common courtesy and manners, and the expectation thereof, are not just for teabaggers. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #191

Again, as I said. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #197

Amen. If my kid mouthed off to a judge in that way, I would have asked them Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #131

But what if the judge had previously done something? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #140

She smarted off at him when she said "adios". He was right to raise her bail. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #203

He said "Bye bye" first, though. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #209

I ncourage YOU to watch the video. Really watch it. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #256

I certainly did, and closely, too. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #275

Sorry Joe OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #207

OldHippie, you need to watch the video. And I'm not losing, either. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #217

I've seen the video Joe OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #236

I'm sorry that you couldn't see what really took place. Because I did. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #239

I guess you're the only one w/ OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #244

You and I just have different specific definitions of the term, I suspect. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #248

Yes! Judges have a tough job. Treat them with respect. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #23

Judges are as biased and unfair as cops. Logical Feb 2013 #57

Then appeal. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #69

Yes, just like filing a complaint against cops seems real effective! Logical Feb 2013 #83

A lot of judges are fucking tools. They don't deserve automatic respect. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #127

But you'd still better call the judge "Your Honor" and be courteous. Bake Feb 2013 #178

You don't even have to go that far derby378 Feb 2013 #259

Sorry. That's normal behavior in a courtroom. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #233

Judges deserve no more and no less respect than the rest of us. pennylane100 Feb 2013 #213

You don't have to feel respect for the judge, but you have to keep your mouth shut if you don't. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #238

Appellete courts are not for the working class. pennylane100 Feb 2013 #365

Why Does The Judge RobinA Feb 2013 #352

The police officer desrves respect, but not in the sense that the judge does. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #355

Yes. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #43

I agree reorg Feb 2013 #49

Did you watch AND listen to the video??? blueamy66 Feb 2013 #73

She got what she deserved. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #52

There are situations where you RudynJack Feb 2013 #77

The judge was too lenient. baldguy Feb 2013 #97

Yeah 30 days in jail, glad the taxpayers are picking up the dime for his power trip Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #161

An attorney likely would had received stiffer punishment if they had done the same. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #227

Yes really. Contempt of court is a crime for a reason. gcomeau Feb 2013 #282

This message was self-deleted by its author markpkessinger Feb 2013 #301

Maybe they do have too much power, Volaris Feb 2013 #314

No, 30 days for contempt obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #318

Without respect for the judicial system marybourg Feb 2013 #330

Gotta Agree RobinA Feb 2013 #347

+1 Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #44

I quite agree Ian Iam Feb 2013 #324

Yea, the girl was wrong......2 nights would have been enough.. busterbrown Feb 2013 #331

stupid judge violates her rights to free speech. what an ass nt msongs Feb 2013 #2

So you've never heard of "contempt of court"? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #5

Yes, a stupid law with no limits. Judges abuse it many times. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #7

Nevertheless, still a law Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #12

agreed! hrmjustin Feb 2013 #53

Do you think she should have been punished at all for what she said? hrmjustin Feb 2013 #55

Yes, maybe a night in jail. 30 days? Only because his feelings were hurt! Logical Feb 2013 #56

Well judges come down hard on this so that people will behave in court. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #59

30 days should be illegal! What a fucked up system. Logical Feb 2013 #60

How about a week as max? hrmjustin Feb 2013 #61

Sounds fair! Logical Feb 2013 #62

30 days does seem to be a bit much but a week I think would be better. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #63

Wow, that is scary. Glad the other judge was rational. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #64

That's pretty standard jberryhill Feb 2013 #66

lol RedstDem Feb 2013 #135

I don't think his feelings were hurt Renew Deal Feb 2013 #152

And a night in jail should fix it! Logical Feb 2013 #156

BS. A night in jail is a slap on the wrist. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #212

Lol, for cussing! n-t Logical Feb 2013 #286

She would laugh off a single night in jail and come back to him spitting in his face. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #211

"Slapped Silly"? And the judge started it, too..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #293

I would imagine that in this case however, the precedent was most certainly not abused... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #88

Why is it "stupid"? What evidence do COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #89

You should write a letter to your state representative Renew Deal Feb 2013 #25

She should have shown some respect,which we all have to do under certain virgogal Feb 2013 #29

Yes, she shouldn't have cussed him out, and she COULD have done a better job of recognizing the..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #296

You Must Be Joking dballance Feb 2013 #40

LOL! Next, you're going to tell me he violated her second amendment rights by denying her a firearm. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #45

Stupid little twit leftynyc Feb 2013 #104

There is no presumption of free speech within a court proceeding. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #208

awesome judge quinnox Feb 2013 #3

The judge was being nice to her ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #4

My question is, how? Earth_First Feb 2013 #8

Apparently she was in a club- so they might have scooped her up just a few hours prior bettyellen Feb 2013 #35

It's easier to get drugs in jail Nevernose Feb 2013 #47

In prison, yes.... blueamy66 Feb 2013 #75

In many jails...yes so much. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #334

"Drug possession charge." Shouldn't have been there, anyway. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #9

Exactly! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #34

"drug possession charge" Sending our children to jail for the benefit of private prisons! Kurska Feb 2013 #10

I can see a week in jail Politicalboi Feb 2013 #11

She said adios first Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #14

She said "adios" mockingly to him first ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #16

I didn't watch the video Politicalboi Feb 2013 #18

that is why he called her back the first time, because she was the one making it racial quinnox Feb 2013 #20

Saw it on the news Jarhead1775 Feb 2013 #24

I believe the judge is Hispanic a la izquierda Feb 2013 #225

She seemed to be high Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #17

The little brat got what she deserved. SpartanDem Feb 2013 #19

+1 Heather MC Feb 2013 #26

yep, don't fuck with a judge quinnox Feb 2013 #28

Ever read about the trial of the Chicago 8? Sometimes judges are total coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #37

maybe, but not this time quinnox Feb 2013 #48

actually, it was the judge who was rude reorg Feb 2013 #51

You're imagining things. RudynJack Feb 2013 #78

What video were you watching? leftynyc Feb 2013 #107

Oh good god, he didn't leer at her obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #320

I don't think he was being a TOTAL jerk here. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #292

In other words, always be submissive, obedient, Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #111

Decent point, I guess. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #219

Smart? Probably. Brave? No. Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #261

I see your point. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #276

True richmwill Feb 2013 #32

No kidding DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #33

High Five! blueamy66 Feb 2013 #76

It was hilarious DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #79

In my state, judges don't "do" tickets--speeding, parking, whatever. MADem Feb 2013 #312

I don't doubt that was a poor decision..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #139

Again Joe OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #223

I watched the video. Not what I saw. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #237

Twirling her hair ... giggling OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #241

Well..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #246

Why is the system always entitled to respect? Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #262

Hmmm ... OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #346

I'm respectful of my parents and teachers if they deserve it Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #351

Hardly an apt analogy OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #360

The drug war is both an abuse and molestation of an entire generation Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #363

Wow, well good luck with that attitude OldHippieChick Feb 2013 #364

Yep. When you're in front of a judge you better show some respect. Luciferous Feb 2013 #268

She got what she deserved Renew Deal Feb 2013 #21

Contempt of court should always lead to jail time. Have some respect. graham4anything Feb 2013 #27

Yeah, respect the system that has armed stormtrooper men Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #264

Judges do that? Judges usually are friends of the common person who did not commit a crime graham4anything Feb 2013 #265

Just what rock do you live under? Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #274

One has to show respect in the court. Or accept the consequences. Do the crime, do the time. graham4anything Feb 2013 #277

I'll take anarchy over the cruel and vicious fraud known as the drug war any day Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #283

I have a feeling she will be much better behaved next time she is in court. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #30

Contempt of Court is a valid 'offense' TheProgressive Feb 2013 #31

Brat acting bratty, she got what she deserved. MadHound Feb 2013 #36

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #38

just better hope you aren't ever standing before this judge quinnox Feb 2013 #46

I'll have to avoid Florida, perhaps reorg Feb 2013 #50

Avoid New York also while you're at it leftynyc Feb 2013 #109

Advoid doing things that can result in a court appearance and you've solved Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #186

I sympathize with her a little...... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #249

Do you think the judge is trying to help her? She needs to get clean LittleBlue Feb 2013 #39

She had very interesting body language at the start. Nolimit Feb 2013 #42

I could care less about the drug posession bluestateguy Feb 2013 #54

Good. 840high Feb 2013 #58

I was a foul-mouthed 18 year old with an attitude problem once but even then I had enough sense Rowdyboy Feb 2013 #65

30 days is excessive way to make his point MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #67

Sometimes judges will rescind contempt sentences if the person apologizes to the court sylvi Feb 2013 #68

Well.... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #71

I'm not a big fan of the CJS, but this little snot blueamy66 Feb 2013 #72

She was acting like a real Piece of shit , she deserved what she got JI7 Feb 2013 #74

She must not have ever listened to Bobby Fuller. Recovered Repug Feb 2013 #80

I dunno. All she said was "adios", Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2013 #81

well handled - that was worth 30 days DrDan Feb 2013 #82

Maybe now she will learn... xoom Feb 2013 #85

If you can say it to a cop (which was ruled legal), what's the difference? Heywood J Feb 2013 #87

The streets are not a courtroom leftynyc Feb 2013 #112

I think that a judge shouldn't be able to trump the provisions of the Constitution Heywood J Feb 2013 #356

WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Feb 2013 #358

I don't think I'll continue this with you. (NT) Heywood J Feb 2013 #361

Technically, it changed what one could be charged with. JohnnyRingo Feb 2013 #125

This story reminds me of the song by Shane McGowan "Saint John of Gods" panader0 Feb 2013 #91

She's a brat. HappyMe Feb 2013 #92

Puzzled Daninmo Feb 2013 #93

And yet bush/cheney/bankers walk around free (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #94

Why was he so pissed she said 'adios'? polly7 Feb 2013 #95

I think it was the way she said it. Luciferous Feb 2013 #270

dictator sadalien Feb 2013 #96

If you spit at heaven, it comes down in your face badtoworse Feb 2013 #98

Everybody is so focused on her so-called lack of respect Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #99

Damn him for following the laws?!!! leftynyc Feb 2013 #114

Exactly. Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #117

Wait a minute leftynyc Feb 2013 #120

An entire generation of young black men Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #126

Well, okay - I certainly leftynyc Feb 2013 #146

Funny how the drug war is never anybody's fault is it? Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #150

How do you define victimless crime? joeglow3 Feb 2013 #169

As opposed to the hundreds of billions of dollars we spend incarcerating them? Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #257

No - it's the lawmakers fault leftynyc Feb 2013 #175

"I don't blame the cops or the judges at all" Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #251

No - the reason I object leftynyc Feb 2013 #271

I never said it was the same as shoving people into ovens Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #280

There's a simple way leftynyc Feb 2013 #297

I do make a distinction between pot and meth and coke Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #306

If you want to consider leftynyc Feb 2013 #341

I don't think mouthing off to a judge is the same thing as organized, principled civil disobedience Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #345

Yes, I agree. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #133

Do you know how much Xanax is without health insurance? Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #148

I have no rx insurance, just filled a bottle of 60 Xanax at Costco for under $12. No insurance. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #287

Well, I don't know how you managed to swing that Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #288

I wouldn't go nearly as far as to call him a "fascist pig"..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #333

Xanax is illegal to hold or take without a valid script obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #322

Well, as unfortunate as that is, I didn't have any issues with that.. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #335

Yea, the drug charge bothers me more far far more than the contempt charge Hippo_Tron Feb 2013 #184

I've been to jail for civil disobedience Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #272

Maybe that judge worked multiple jobs NightOwwl Feb 2013 #310

I know that he thew a girl in jail for 30 days on a power trip Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #313

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #100

Only 30 days? JohnnyRingo Feb 2013 #105

Only problem is, he started the B.S. first. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #119

I see your point. JohnnyRingo Feb 2013 #137

Okay, and thanks for being civil, btw. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #141

There really is a law against being stupid slackmaster Feb 2013 #115

Good GETTINGTIRED Feb 2013 #122

If you come into Go Vols Feb 2013 #124

DU's authoritarians loves 'em some punishment. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #130

I LOVED seeing that stupid grin being wiped off her face, Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #162

Duly noted. Nye Bevan is a proud authoritarian. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #170

Next time you go to court let us all know how it goes when YOU tell the kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #220

I don't think the young woman behaved intelligently. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #273

Pretty much my point, too. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #291

A girl led off in chains for a month for a victimless crime and an ego trip, disgusting. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #173

"Only violent offenders need to be locked away". So, no prison for the banksters. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #179

I would rephrase that to "someone who harms others." Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #195

Thanks for the retraction (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #198

Uh, I didn't retract anything. But carry on. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #267

What does putting him in a cage help? He didn't put anyone in a cage. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #202

Deterrence (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #210

The deterrence theory has been thoroughly debunked. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #216

Sad but damn true. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #298

I am far from an authoritarian, and she deserved the contempt charge obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #325

Really. RobinA Feb 2013 #354

The judge vacated her sentence... joshcryer Feb 2013 #366

Kudos to the judge. nt Skip Intro Feb 2013 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #323

non-criminal lawyer here The Second Stone Feb 2013 #144

I am really surprised to see so many here support the abuse of judicial power bowens43 Feb 2013 #147

The authoritarianism on this thread makes me sick. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #164

I trust you'll spit on the judge or curse him next time you're in court. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #222

Putting a person into a cage for swearing does make one an authoritarian. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #263

it's not an abuse of power RILib Feb 2013 #234

Another punk-ass brat who apparently let the drugs do the talking for her derby378 Feb 2013 #149

"How much is your jewelry worth?" "Rick Ralls." Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #253

Rick Ross, or Rick Ro$$ alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #258

Oh, I kept thinking of Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #260

Kai won't stand a chance at testimony against the 'bear hug giant'..off to a cell with Kai, also... Tikki Feb 2013 #158

Saw Something like this 4Q2u2 Feb 2013 #159

I learned that lesson in person Lurker Deluxe Feb 2013 #183

What a stupid young woman. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #166

Judge was far from innocent.(watch the video) AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #188

It is his courtroom. I agree, his actions were not within reason. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #215

Maybe not. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #218

Did you see the following video? Soundman Feb 2013 #285

It's the almost the exact same thing I watched on MediaIte, by the way. Another link? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #289

Message auto-removed pauldemmd195j Feb 2013 #172

Ruling by Ego now Smilo Feb 2013 #177

Wish all judges took this approach with smartasses in court, lol. Especially the WEALTHY ones. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #187

This judge would actually be kissing up to the 1%, I betcha. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #190

I'm pretty sure this judge takes no shit from anyone (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #201

Agree. With crowding in jails, doubt she will serve the full 30 days. kiranon Feb 2013 #224

I wouldn't be too sure about that, Nye. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #254

The judge, my new hero. RILib Feb 2013 #226

�Are you serious?� SayWut Feb 2013 #231

Kids--and people in general--learn lessons by experiencing the consequences of their behavior. tblue37 Feb 2013 #232

Notice that the judge also appoints the lawyer, the one who complains, tblue37 Feb 2013 #245

Judges don't appoint the public defender obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #326

No, he didn't sentence her for "cursing at him". JohnnyRingo Feb 2013 #252

I thought the thirty-day sentence was for the contempt alone? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #300

I reread it and I see you're correct. JohnnyRingo Feb 2013 #302

Not a problem, really. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #308

It was for contempt of court treestar Feb 2013 #336

hahahahaha ... I love my fellow Dems! tavernier Feb 2013 #294

Sadly, you've got a point there, I suspect. n/t =( AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #299

Judges are given extraordinary � and necessary � authority over what goes on in their courtrooms... markpkessinger Feb 2013 #304

The judge should have divided the contempt charge Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #309

Did she not get some sort of advice beforehand? Aerows Feb 2013 #329

LOL. Textbook case of contempt. bayareamike Feb 2013 #332

Whoopsie. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #339

Drug charge? she had xanex. Javaman Feb 2013 #343

Schedule IV drug without a script obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #362

You have singularly poor taste in "heroes." Brigid Feb 2013 #344

I fight authority, authority always wins cherish44 Feb 2013 #357

Two Points DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2013 #359