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OnyxCollie

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9. Hey kids! Spot the apparatchik!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:58 PM
Feb 2013

INTERESTING! "COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x281170

"There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'
If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com ) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'
Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'
Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'
It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes."

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Propaganda. [View all] woo me with science Feb 2013 OP
The kind of madness I used to think was reserved for places like FR. K&R whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #1
Some people hate when other people disagree with them. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #3
No, I hate it when they disagree with whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #7
The Constitution ProSense Feb 2013 #11
Joke whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #14
Denial is not virtue. n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #15
Lol! Irony Overload! n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #16
LMAO totally. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #35
I agree nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #20
I try not to jump into these little popularity contests. ProSense Feb 2013 #36
The irony is that this was 2007... nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #39
ProSense? Why do you argue with people determined to live in their own reality? ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #46
i see, so because there is precedent, it must be right. tomp Feb 2013 #70
Because there is precedent, that is the correct interpretation... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2013 #108
sorry, no credence given to immoral laws. tomp Feb 2013 #111
Trial, conviction, then execution. Due process. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #75
Denial is not in question. However colluding with the destruction of rights is. Jakes Progress Feb 2013 #96
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither". Benjamin Franklin. Fuddnik Feb 2013 #21
^^^^____^^^^ This. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #37
Yes, we are. woo me with science Feb 2013 #67
"...deserve neither, truebluegreen Feb 2013 #76
Problem is our president is claiming imminent danger too frequently. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #63
100% in agreement with you, Prosense BlueCaliDem Feb 2013 #83
When the OP says to be wary of propanda, I think he meant you. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #91
Ahhh. The essence of apologist's everywhere. Jakes Progress Feb 2013 #95
I hate it when poster use things like GD and don't type them out. What the F is GD? xtraxritical Feb 2013 #55
I'll second that Dismalindistress Feb 2013 #78
GD = General Discussion (Forum) Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #79
So where were the people defending Bush policy G_j Feb 2013 #10
They were busy being brainwashed... ReRe Feb 2013 #51
Does the thread topic makes you feel a bit defensive? n/t brentspeak Feb 2013 #59
That isn't even a refutation. sibelian Feb 2013 #65
As long as Republicans make Attila the Hun look like Mother Teresa, we have the potential for Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #92
Absolutely rejected. Catherina Feb 2013 #2
Remember anybody who disagrees with this is either a el_bryanto Feb 2013 #4
How true nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #27
Rec'd, millions more people need to understand they're being duped just1voice Feb 2013 #5
Thanks for posting the definition... ReRe Feb 2013 #53
K&R idwiyo Feb 2013 #6
"Some of us don't equate terrorists to ordinary Americans." The Link Feb 2013 #8
Did you know DHS and PDs consider Occupy Wall Street to be potential terrorists? Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #13
I'm wondering how long it will be before the first domestic drone strike... rwsanders Feb 2013 #49
+100000 Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2013 #50
Exactly! ReRe Feb 2013 #54
exactly. nt tomp Feb 2013 #71
Oh brave new world pscot Feb 2013 #73
Link of a reputable news source stating something even close to what you have said. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #101
... Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #103
I covered that link. And it is a reputable news source. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #105
You may have missed the last three paragraphs of the LA Times article. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #106
You don't need to answer anymore of my replies... NCTraveler Feb 2013 #107
Thank you for your links and information, woo me with science Feb 2013 #109
Thank you as well. And I'm sure we're aware when someone, anyone, is simply acting in hopes of Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #110
Hey kids! Spot the apparatchik! OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #9
Thanks you for posting RC Feb 2013 #28
Can't post that often enough. woo me with science Feb 2013 #42
Thanks for posting this... ReRe Feb 2013 #56
amusingly, this is precisely what They accuse anyone bringing up drones of doing MisterP Feb 2013 #88
Great Repost....Particularly at this time... KoKo Feb 2013 #102
Fucking recced and kicked ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #12
What a nice well rounded grouping of catch phrases and broad judgement. Zax2me Feb 2013 #17
They're still out to make us eat this fucking company town elephant one bite at a time. ancianita Feb 2013 #18
You have a way with words. woo me with science Feb 2013 #74
Just you wait. theaocp Feb 2013 #19
A Republican can only regain power if the opposition party is made so disenchanted BlueCaliDem Feb 2013 #82
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Feb 2013 #22
WOO ME KNOWS THE SCORE Skittles Feb 2013 #23
Who we voting for in 2016? JoePhilly Feb 2013 #24
No One, we will all be dead at this rate unless you're a 1%er (hyperbole) nt Drew Richards Feb 2013 #26
Hitler and Stalin have nothing on the billionaire plutocracy. Initech Feb 2013 #25
DURec leftstreet Feb 2013 #29
I remember hurricane Katrina at DU RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #30
Kick and Rec! fleabiscuit Feb 2013 #31
I just can't wait until I get my check in the mail... Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #32
First they came for terrorists (Muslims), JEB Feb 2013 #33
They call drone killing wise?! Killing is NEVER WISE, EVER! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2013 #34
Amen ReRe Feb 2013 #60
Don't drink the koolaid blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #38
Propaganda is a sub-set of information. It's always designed to spin a viewpoint, and that's... slackmaster Feb 2013 #40
"Education is teaching things that are true; OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #94
Indeed. Tyrants love those folks LittleBlue Feb 2013 #41
D'accord. marmar Feb 2013 #43
Why, just today we were all assured that the use of such strikes would be "conscientious" Maven Feb 2013 #44
Droney approves this message lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #45
Absolutist Fascism. Recognize it. Reject it. Make a stand for freedom. THINK for yourself. nt patrice Feb 2013 #47
Message auto-removed Mrznjajecistoca Feb 2013 #48
I do reject the propaganda. ReRe Feb 2013 #52
These things always progress. So what's next? Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #57
Climate change, Earth becoming more like Venus. Amonester Feb 2013 #61
Well done, Woo! MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #58
From Manny Goldstein?! :) woo me with science Feb 2013 #66
The NDAA Legalizes The Use Of Propaganda On The US Public Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #62
I cannot adequately convey the nausea and despair woo me with science Feb 2013 #64
Under the Obama administration, the Pentagon found no fault OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #93
Yes. So what are we going to do about it? BillyJack Feb 2013 #68
I totally disagree! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #69
America Reduced To Dumb And Dumber -Let The Cheerleading Begin cantbeserious Feb 2013 #72
Hey! Try to carve out a little joy or cheer for yourself already. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #77
^^LOL. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #98
Propaganda is even more effective online marions ghost Feb 2013 #80
well said liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #81
Alex Carey Octafish Feb 2013 #84
Propaganda, yes. Excellent, awesome, stellar post. You totally rock more each day, woo. Zorra Feb 2013 #85
propaganda, street definition russ1943 Feb 2013 #86
"This news" = what? Link please. (nt) philly_bob Feb 2013 #87
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #89
We have a large contingent of the "Father Knows Best" wing of the party here. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #90
I am not on board with this policy. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #97
kick CrispyQ Feb 2013 #99
well said nt. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #100
I say reject divisive bunk like this. great white snark Feb 2013 #104
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