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laundry_queen

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37. I can relate to this
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:50 PM
Feb 2013

my parents were very much into the 'seen and not heard' crap (I was born in '75). I was shamed, belittled, and bullied into behaving and being a 'polite child', and screw any of my feelings (not just talking 'i haz a sad' here, I'm talking about being famished or extremely thirsty and feeling ill and being "poohpooh'ed" and being called a baby, or getting a whack for 'being annoying'). My parents were more concerned that people thought I was a 'good child' so they could look like wonderful parents. My dad used to enjoy getting my brother and I to fetch him everything he wanted. Beers and other drinks, snacks, tv remote, you name it. We would complain and he would say, "why have kids if they don't serve you like you should be served? I put this roof over your head." My mother made us do all of the housework - I'm not talking chores here, I'm talking ALL of the housework. And she'd inspect it, and punish you if you left some streaks on the mirror....Let's just say when I became a teen I rebelled - and rebelled good. I became rude, disrespectful and treated them exactly how they had treated me all those years....

Now I'm the parent of a teenager. My teen was raised in a totally different manner. From day one, she was respected, as a human being. That doesn't mean I spoiled her rotten, or that there was no discipline or chores. It means I found a better way, a way that guided my children to act intrinsically and with empathy so that harsh discipline was rarely needed (and I never spanked or hit at all, harsh discipline is 'grounding' or time out).

My teen is a joy. She is respectful, she is polite, she is socially aware, she is an activist. I'm so very proud of her. Her friends are the same. I enjoy having them in my home. They are FAR more polite and respectful than me and my friends EVER were. Teachers, relatives, friends and random neighbors come up to me to tell me how nice my daughter is. I have a feeling that how a child is raised DOES have something to do with rudeness, but not in the way people expect. People want parents to CONTROL their kids and MAKE them behave. I know from experience that extrinsic enforcement never works when the parent is not present. It's better to teach a child empathy (and show it!) and intrinsic motivation, then you don't have to worry about their behavior when they are out of your sight.

Also, I think it's important to remember 'times are a changing'. My mother thinks the young 'uns at her work are the rudest people alive because they check their phone all the time and sometimes wear black jeans to work. Social norms have changed and just because something was considered rude when you were a youngster doesn't mean it still is. Once upon a time it was rude for a lady to show her ankles. Thank goodness THAT doesn't exist anymore.

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and they are gobbling their food... AngryAmish Feb 2013 #1
Yes they are... Kalidurga Feb 2013 #2
They volunteer more and commit fewer crimes than their predecessors Recursion Feb 2013 #3
Yes Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #4
I don't think so. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #5
You ain't just whistling Dixie jberryhill Feb 2013 #8
Bingo! nt. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #15
oh starry, you made me laugh in the nicest of possible ways. cali Feb 2013 #9
Me too! Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #14
No jberryhill Feb 2013 #6
You need to define "the past" Proud Public Servant Feb 2013 #7
rude is in the eye of the beholder. hollysmom Feb 2013 #10
Maybe. Unfortunately, with all the back stabbers, cheats, etc., in society it might be a good Hoyt Feb 2013 #11
And are they on your lawn more? nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #12
some are. many are very nice. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #16
I find that people in general are meaner/ruder/more disrespectful. LeftofObama Feb 2013 #17
Our culture is more rude and disrespectful than it was in the past... Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #18
The phrase "Thank you" has Golden Raisin Feb 2013 #22
i don't see that as turning into more rude, more like just a change in culture, less formality JI7 Feb 2013 #23
I blame it on Cartman snooper2 Feb 2013 #30
Kids, what's the matter with kids today? REP Feb 2013 #19
Socialized very differently. Some ways for the better, some for the worse. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #20
Not at all, mitchtv Feb 2013 #21
What do you mean by Rude ? JI7 Feb 2013 #24
Message auto-removed TruffulaTree Feb 2013 #25
no, not at all rollin74 Feb 2013 #26
Yes. If I had said to my parents or another adult, "fuck you!" I'd have gotten raccoon Feb 2013 #27
Respect is a two way street tabbycat31 Feb 2013 #28
I can relate to this laundry_queen Feb 2013 #37
No, not necessarily...Depends on how you are with them... Tikki Feb 2013 #29
I think people in general are ruder and more disrespectful than they were in the past slackmaster Feb 2013 #31
No. temporary311 Feb 2013 #32
I was a baby boomer LeftInTX Feb 2013 #33
No, ma'am, I can't believe they are. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #34
I think the level of cynicism has increased Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2013 #35
No more so than anyone else. surrealAmerican Feb 2013 #36
The kids I know are wonderful. Left and right. nolabear Feb 2013 #38
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