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In reply to the discussion: ‘Did You Say ‘F**k Me?’ Judge Sentences Florida Teen To 30 Days In Jail For Cursing At Him [View all]A HERETIC I AM
(24,876 posts)317. PERHAPS IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU TO READ MY ORIGINAL POST AGAIN!!! (Sorry for the shouting)
( I just wanted to be heard over the din of this sub-thread)
You know...the one that started this exchange?
I did NOT say "Today's kids are all worse!" (your words)
I did NOT say "today's kids have more problems overall than those of yesteryear" (ditto)
I did NOT say "kids have no manners today" (ditto)
I did NOT say "Today's kids suck compared to my generation!" (not me)
What I said was
Some young people today have no damned respect.
Operative word? SOME
Not all.
Not most,
Not a majority.
Some.
And you're right, that has always been the case. When I was a kid, some kids had no manners.
But I said what I said because I believe it to be particularly true these days. As others have pointed out, contemporary influences have given some young people the idea that it is quite alright to speak to a Judge, in this case, anyway, as if he was one of her girlfriends in the hall at her high school.
This girl (and I was going to use the term "young lady", but she has quite a way to go before she earns that moniker) was obviously high in FUCKING COURT! She is apparently abusing Xanax. That's not the equivalent of smoking a joint. Its a bit further along than that. The drug is addictive.
Set aside for a moment that she was stoned, because I quite frankly don't give a fuck. I feel she is free to put any substance inside her own body that she chooses to, as long as it causes no harm to anyone else.
But she was dressed in an orange jumpsuit. That means she had been there a while. This isn't a DUI beef. She got popped, is in the nick and now she is in front of a judge during a procedure designed to get her the hell out of there. The Judge was trying to determine what kind of funds she had access to in order for her to either hire an attorney or pay the bond and she was treating it as if it was no big deal and that this member of the Bar was somehow her peer.
He isn't. And he proved it.
Her mannerisms from the get go were disrespectful not only to the judge, but to the entire circumstance as a whole. She might as well have held a sign over her head that said "I'm too stupid to do the right thing so just throw the book at me".
When the judge asked her how much her jewelry was worth she gave a smart-assed, typical dumbass teenager type of answer, again, speaking as if the judge was standing by her locker.
"Like Rick Ross" she says. Really? You equate the contents of your damned Minnie Mouse jewelry box to the wealth of the 20th richest rapper alive ?
She has no respect. She has no manners. She has no class. She is too fucking stupid to understand the gravity of a courtroom situation. And at 18 or whatever she is, she should have at LEAST a modicum of some of that by now.
As far as your repeated assertions on this thread that I am pushing either "teabagger" or republican talking points, that I might be a troll or engaging in "trollish" behavior, or that I am somehow, after over 9 years as a DU'er, going to be found out by the likes of you to be a secret conservative.
Let me just tell you this;
I agree with Chris Rock.
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‘Did You Say ‘F**k Me?’ Judge Sentences Florida Teen To 30 Days In Jail For Cursing At Him [View all]
trailmonkee
Feb 2013
OP
Really? So sentenced to 30 days in jail for cussing? Judges have to much power. n-t
Logical
Feb 2013
#6
A person has to be a fully qualified trial lawyer to get a job as a public defender
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#180
Life isn't fair. The poor always get the short end of the stick. Suck hind teat. Get nickel-and-
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#206
I have a cousin who works his underpaid and underappreciated ASS off as a PD.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#189
I have a very dedicated public defender in my family, her clients get her full skill set and
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#278
Blame the system, not the public defenders doing the best they can in a faulty system.
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#315
"Public defenders are nothing more than a piece of shit" is the problem, would you edit that out?
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#328
Wow. You just told two stories in which you were represented by private council you paid to
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#281
Blame the system as not being work a piece of shit, not the public defenders doing the best
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#316
Yes, but it was the way you phrased some things(that I quoted, btw) that was problematic.
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#108
Ask any experienced teachers here on DU if kids today have more behavior problems,
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#157
She's not an adolescent. She's an adult of 18 and she needs to put her big girl pants on
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#196
She's not a misbehaving "kid". She is an adult, and she committed the CRIME of
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#194
Yes, but we shouldn't be pulling the "Today's kids are all worse!" card as a certain member did.....
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#295
PERHAPS IT WOULD BEHOOVE YOU TO READ MY ORIGINAL POST AGAIN!!! (Sorry for the shouting)
A HERETIC I AM
Feb 2013
#317
Well, I'm genuinely sorry if you thought I was accusing you of actually being a 'Bagger.............
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#338
You dumb enough to lip off and laugh at a judge, you deserve whatever happens.
hobbit709
Feb 2013
#86
Again, as I said to others, the opinion itself I didn't have a problem with.
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#134
He did have a good reason for doubling it: She *laughed at him* and said, "Adios," probably
tblue37
Feb 2013
#240
Well, all I can say is I disagree. You're wrong. It's not a right-wing meme
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#142
Maybe in your life. But this isn't the case when you think about us as a whole.....
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#305
Okay, but just realize that the opinion itself, while I disagree with it, wasn't the issue..........
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#113
I have no ideal if kids are less well mannered today than in previous times
pennylane100
Feb 2013
#221
Common courtesy and manners, and the expectation thereof, are not just for teabaggers.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#191
Amen. If my kid mouthed off to a judge in that way, I would have asked them
Common Sense Party
Feb 2013
#131
She smarted off at him when she said "adios". He was right to raise her bail.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#203
You and I just have different specific definitions of the term, I suspect.
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#248
A lot of judges are fucking tools. They don't deserve automatic respect.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#127
You don't have to feel respect for the judge, but you have to keep your mouth shut if you don't.
JDPriestly
Feb 2013
#238
The police officer desrves respect, but not in the sense that the judge does.
JDPriestly
Feb 2013
#355
Yeah 30 days in jail, glad the taxpayers are picking up the dime for his power trip
Exultant Democracy
Feb 2013
#161
An attorney likely would had received stiffer punishment if they had done the same.
LiberalFighter
Feb 2013
#227
She would laugh off a single night in jail and come back to him spitting in his face.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#211
I would imagine that in this case however, the precedent was most certainly not abused...
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#88
Yes, she shouldn't have cussed him out, and she COULD have done a better job of recognizing the.....
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#296
LOL! Next, you're going to tell me he violated her second amendment rights by denying her a firearm.
Buzz Clik
Feb 2013
#45
Apparently she was in a club- so they might have scooped her up just a few hours prior
bettyellen
Feb 2013
#35
"drug possession charge" Sending our children to jail for the benefit of private prisons!
Kurska
Feb 2013
#10
that is why he called her back the first time, because she was the one making it racial
quinnox
Feb 2013
#20
Ever read about the trial of the Chicago 8? Sometimes judges are total
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2013
#37
Judges do that? Judges usually are friends of the common person who did not commit a crime
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#265
One has to show respect in the court. Or accept the consequences. Do the crime, do the time.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#277
I'll take anarchy over the cruel and vicious fraud known as the drug war any day
Downtown Hound
Feb 2013
#283
Advoid doing things that can result in a court appearance and you've solved
Auntie Bush
Feb 2013
#186
I was a foul-mouthed 18 year old with an attitude problem once but even then I had enough sense
Rowdyboy
Feb 2013
#65
Sometimes judges will rescind contempt sentences if the person apologizes to the court
sylvi
Feb 2013
#68
I think that a judge shouldn't be able to trump the provisions of the Constitution
Heywood J
Feb 2013
#356
As opposed to the hundreds of billions of dollars we spend incarcerating them?
Downtown Hound
Feb 2013
#257
I don't think mouthing off to a judge is the same thing as organized, principled civil disobedience
Downtown Hound
Feb 2013
#345
I have no rx insurance, just filled a bottle of 60 Xanax at Costco for under $12. No insurance.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#287
A girl led off in chains for a month for a victimless crime and an ego trip, disgusting.
Exultant Democracy
Feb 2013
#173
"Only violent offenders need to be locked away". So, no prison for the banksters.
Nye Bevan
Feb 2013
#179
What does putting him in a cage help? He didn't put anyone in a cage.
Exultant Democracy
Feb 2013
#202
I am really surprised to see so many here support the abuse of judicial power
bowens43
Feb 2013
#147
Putting a person into a cage for swearing does make one an authoritarian.
Exultant Democracy
Feb 2013
#263
Kai won't stand a chance at testimony against the 'bear hug giant'..off to a cell with Kai, also...
Tikki
Feb 2013
#158
It's the almost the exact same thing I watched on MediaIte, by the way. Another link?
AverageJoe90
Feb 2013
#289
Wish all judges took this approach with smartasses in court, lol. Especially the WEALTHY ones.
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#187
Kids--and people in general--learn lessons by experiencing the consequences of their behavior.
tblue37
Feb 2013
#232
Judges are given extraordinary — and necessary — authority over what goes on in their courtrooms...
markpkessinger
Feb 2013
#304