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In reply to the discussion: Do you pay your bills on line? How often do you use snail mail? [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)81. Do you have packages delivered to your home after shopping online? That's 'snail mail'.
of course the crisis is manufactured, and the manufacturing began in 1970 when Congress made USPS a for-profit 'corporation' in competition with other 'corporations'.
FedEx was founded the next year, and was founded *because* of that legislation.
The crisis has been manufactured by decades of legislation that systematically took away USPS's business and put it at a disadvantage in the 'competition' -- BY LAW.
For example, in the mid-1970s the post office was told to remove copy machines from post offices under pressure from lobbyists representing office equipment stores who feared that USPS was taking away its business. Later when the USPS initiated a Pack and Send service, the outcry from Mailboxes Etc. and other private packing stores successfully challenged the service. Years later, when Internet shopping took off, the delivery of packages to individual households should have resulted in a dramatic increase in USPS business. But parcel shipments were generated by large organizations and the usps was forbidden by law from lowering prices and not allowed to negotiate discounts and thus lost business. This resulted in the entirely incredible situation in the 1990s where the United States Government negotiated an agreement for the delivery of U.S. government package services with Fed Ex because the USPS was not allowed to negotiate for lower prices!
Today the strongest force in shaping the future of the postal service, aside from Congress, is the bulk mailers. Indeed, bulk mailers are formally represented in the USPS through the Postmaster Generals Mailers Technical Advisory Committee. Bulk mailers dont care about post office closings because big mailers present their mail at Bulk Mail Entry Units. Saturday delivery is not a major concern either because advertising mail would do fine with even three day delivery. Nor do they care about having a blue collection box on every corner, half of which have disappeared in the past 20 years.
What bulk mailers do care about is price. They receive huge discounts for pre-sorting that is far in excess of what the postal service saves by receiving mail pre sorted.
http://onthecommons.org/magazine/end-post-office-public-institution
Today the strongest force in shaping the future of the postal service, aside from Congress, is the bulk mailers. Indeed, bulk mailers are formally represented in the USPS through the Postmaster Generals Mailers Technical Advisory Committee. Bulk mailers dont care about post office closings because big mailers present their mail at Bulk Mail Entry Units. Saturday delivery is not a major concern either because advertising mail would do fine with even three day delivery. Nor do they care about having a blue collection box on every corner, half of which have disappeared in the past 20 years.
What bulk mailers do care about is price. They receive huge discounts for pre-sorting that is far in excess of what the postal service saves by receiving mail pre sorted.
http://onthecommons.org/magazine/end-post-office-public-institution
The use of the USPS as a subsidized delivery system for junk mail can be laid at the feet of CONGRESS.
BTW, USPS delivers a significant percent of both FedEX & UPS packages, at locations those businesses find unprofitable to service.
I'll be laughing when all the people who said, "I have the internet, why do i need the post office" are crying when the rates for delivering the crap they buy online go up.
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That's my experience too, I wish they had spam filters that worked with paper.
badtoworse
Feb 2013
#70
I don't pay anything online. I use the snail mail and I don't know what I would do without it.
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2013
#5
I use the P.O. most of the time. I've had my bank information stolen nine times online.
shenmue
Feb 2013
#8
My use of snail mail has been reduced to about 12 per year, not including Christmas cards.
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#20
here's a tip: mail things to yourself when you fly instead of paying airline fees
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2013
#24
Not one person in this thread has said they don't have a computer and internet access
jberryhill
Feb 2013
#44
maybe there's DUers out there that have to go to the library to pay bills and to get on DU.
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2013
#46
so should we start closing down libraries since not as many people read paper books anymore?
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2013
#52
I've probably set foot in an actual post office once during the last 20 years
War Horse
Feb 2013
#50
In addition, mailing packages is much less expensive via the US Post Office than the alternatives.
northoftheborder
Feb 2013
#55
I have a feeling we'll be sorry when the US Postal service is drowned in the bathtub....
Walk away
Feb 2013
#59
"NO" and "OFTEN." Tomorrow, in fact, I will get a book of stamps and mail bill payments.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#63
The people who think an end to the USPS and "snail mail" is fine need to remember that snail mail,
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#66
I pay most bills on line, I also use the USPS constantly for many reasons and purposes
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#67
But that check is mailed by the CU...that is still you mailing your check.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#75
Do you have packages delivered to your home after shopping online? That's 'snail mail'.
HiPointDem
Feb 2013
#81
The USPS handle more mail in a week Than the Canadian system does in a year.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#93
I didn't realize that you were a different person, my bad. I would hope that you can understand
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#98
I mailed a few party invites last month, first time I'd used snail mail in about 2 years -
lynne
Feb 2013
#107
I pay my lawn guy once a month. I pay all else online. Use FedEx for packages (cheaper)
Honeycombe8
Feb 2013
#115