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ismnotwasm

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65. I think those people would identify as 'progressive '

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:35 PM

Feb 2013

Complain about 'lock-stepping', the DLC, call uncritical supporters of Obama 'groupies' etc.

I also think many of them are, if not well meaning, very frustrated In their attempts to explain to explain their opposition to certain of President Obamas policies.

I have seen what I call the 'two ships passing in the night arguments. Say a well reasoned explanation of why policies are fully supported, met with accusations of lock-stepping,being paid DLC staff, being An 'Obama groupie'. I have seen a poster with well reasoned argument on why a policy is not supported, called a troll or a disrupter.

I took a vacation from here when the anti- Obama vitriolic was to much for me to take, when the persons supporting him were driven into having their own group.

I see it starting again, so I read a little of both, 'sides' find those few who can present an issue in a pragmatic, reasonable light, stay focused on women's issues and hope it doesn't get so ugly again.

This time I'm not leaving---I don't think---but then I don't post all that much or get my only political information here. We lost some very good posters last time.

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I have spent a significant portion of my morning ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 OP

One of the many reasons I spend less and less time on DU. I noticed the same as you..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #1

Or maybe they're genuine Democrats leftstreet Feb 2013 #2

From someone who has watched from afar, this ^^^^. eom ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #3

So, those that are posting in positive threads... Wait Wut Feb 2013 #11

Wow, bypassed corpodem and 3rd way and DLC straight to non-Dem. great white snark Feb 2013 #39

What? Wait Wut Feb 2013 #62

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #17

Third Way Policy invites criticism leftstreet Feb 2013 #45

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #47

Ahh the extremists hit again. Sheepshank Feb 2013 #75

Agree! It's that ILLOGICAL assumption that anyone who isn't 100% O-hater 24/7 is an O-idolator, as.. patrice Feb 2013 #80

This is NOT the 1940s. & Dialectic, in and of itself, is not an evil thing. It's an empty rational patrice Feb 2013 #82

i wish i had that much time to burn datasuspect Feb 2013 #4

I started early ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #18

LOL. Sez the guy with almost 25,000 posts Hekate Feb 2013 #55

9 years of activity datasuspect Feb 2013 #58

I used to do all that, back in the Bush admin when it looked like it made a difference Hekate Feb 2013 #63

A lot of people come to online forums in order to argue Fumesucker Feb 2013 #5

. Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #88

There are some posters that I just don't like Autumn Feb 2013 #6

I use ignore alot Marrah_G Feb 2013 #7

Many simply covet the struggle Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #8

^^^Exactly correct^^^ n/t FSogol Feb 2013 #12

^^^^^Spot on^^^^^ Hekate Feb 2013 #33

I'd add ... JoePhilly Feb 2013 #35

Agree. patrice Feb 2013 #79

if it was all positive, it would be boring Enrique Feb 2013 #9

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #19

okay, I'll bite. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #10

When ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #21

Sure, but mainly because there is little choice in the matter tkmorris Feb 2013 #74

What you discover is that water is wet libtodeath Feb 2013 #13

You weren't around when there was no GDP or Politics 2013 were you? Solly Mack Feb 2013 #14

Meh. As in Mehta-ish HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #15

What does that mean? 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #22

This is a subject more suited to the Meta-discussion forum Fumesucker Feb 2013 #23

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #27

They don't do that any more and they're not called mods either :-) Fumesucker Feb 2013 #31

I would think theKed Feb 2013 #16

Good point. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #26

It's a testament to the Dem party being a big tent party. Although some posters do get condescending JaneyVee Feb 2013 #20

Good point ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #29

I would say that was a wasted morning quinnox Feb 2013 #24

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #32

So it seems to me, as well. MineralMan Feb 2013 #25

i came here to discuss politics. seabeyond Feb 2013 #28

Or maybe it's because true Democratic VALUES are more important to them than DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #30

I'll go with this one ^^^^^^ Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #34

I pretty much see the same thing madokie Feb 2013 #36

There are some posters who will support President Obama regardless of what he does Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #37

yup, very boring, those ones quinnox Feb 2013 #38

Would you also say ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #42

Absolutely. I don't usually click on their posts either. Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #64

I must hate cats Glassunion Feb 2013 #40

People without a pragmatic bone in their body, clinging to absolutist ideologies... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #41

Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #44

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; ... Fumesucker Feb 2013 #48

Hey, I have not seen you around for weeks! I wanted to thank you. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #43

I think I know the exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #46

I do not tend to do "me too" posts cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #49

Also... What fun is it conversing with someone you agree with? Glassunion Feb 2013 #50

You nailed it. DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #61

I see what you are saying and can only speak for myself. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #51

Good points ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #52

For the millionth time whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #53

"crazy, fascist bullshit." Damn. Just damn. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #56

That's right n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #57

No, it's totally wrong to use that kind of ridiculous language. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #59

Lol! whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #60

Throw me on too, maybe not my exact word choices but the sentiment is close enough TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #86

I am strongly Obama, pro-Dem, but do not spend a lot of time on those threads. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #54

I think those people would identify as 'progressive ' ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #65

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #67

Exactly ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #73

I have noticed a significant number of DUers who ONLY criticize Democrats and Democratic policies kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #66

I've noticed a significant number of Dem politicians acting like GOPers leftstreet Feb 2013 #69

Yeah, cheerleading posts are boring. DireStrike Feb 2013 #68

When ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #70

Repeal of DADT? sibelian Feb 2013 #71

You miss the point ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #77

There is a lot of binary thinking going on, no doubt. DireStrike Feb 2013 #92

Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #93

I like President Obama just fine. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #72

I'm one of those that don't really post on pro-Obama/etc. threads. Cleita Feb 2013 #76

Not all posts supporting PO and/or the Democratic Party are what they are characterized as. patrice Feb 2013 #78

Some of us are simply here/there to keep the Democrats honest. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #81

People do that, keep Democrats honest, in different ways, for example "sacrificing human beings in patrice Feb 2013 #83

I don't disagree with you. I'm not necessarily opposed to the use of drones, either. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #84

I wonder why that is. I don't know enough to try to answer that question. patrice Feb 2013 #87

It seems to me that we're talking about two issues now, drones and the President's decisions. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #90

I don't really post in the political discussions too much... Agschmid Feb 2013 #85

I have an explanation if you care to bend an ear. Bonobo Feb 2013 #89

Holding public servants accountable is the responsibility of the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #91