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In reply to the discussion: How a Secret Memo Justifies a Kill List [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)13. We are making enemies much faster than we can kill them. Why?
From a former CIA person:
Drone attacks create terrorist safe havens, warns former CIA official
Indiscriminate use of drones in Middle East causes too many civilian casualties, warns former CIA counterterrorism head
Paul Harris in New York
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 5 June 2012 15.56 EDT
A former top terrorism official at the CIA has warned that President Barack Obama's controversial drone programme is far too indiscriminate in hitting targets and could lead to such political instability that it creates terrorist safe havens.
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Now Robert Grenier, who headed the CIA's counter-terrorism center from 2004 to 2006 and was previously a CIA station chief in Pakistan, has told the Guardian that the drone programme is targeted too broadly. "It [the drone program] needs to be targeted much more finely. We have been seduced by them and the unintended consequences of our actions are going to outweigh the intended consequences," Grenier said in an interview.
Grenier emphasised that the use of drones was a valuable tool in tackling terrorism but only when used against specific identified targets, who have been tracked and monitored to a place where a strike is feasible. However, recent media revelations about Obama's programme have revealed a more widespread use of the strike capability, including the categorising of all military-age males in a strike zone of a target as militants. That sort of broad definition and the greater use of drones has outraged human rights organisations.
The BIJ has reported that drone strikes in Pakistan over the weekend hit a funeral gathering for a militant slain in a previous strike and also may have accidentally hit a mosque. That sort of action adds credence to the claims that the drone campaign is likely to cause more damage by creating anger at the US than it does in eliminating terrorist threats.
"We have gone a long way down the road of creating a situation where we are creating more enemies than we are removing from the battlefield. We are already there with regards to Pakistan and Afghanistan," he said
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/05/al-qaida-drone-attacks-too-broad
Wish we'd listen to the intelligence professionals, like Tom Tomorrow or half of DU, instead of the G.I. Joe wannabes.
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Secret Government and its associated Kill Lists are troubling, no matter who's in the Oval Office.
Octafish
Feb 2013
#4
Which brings up the central question: ''When did murder become an approved national policy?''
Octafish
Feb 2013
#7
K&R! "It's legal" does not make it moral. Legal does not trump moral.
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#10
I figure two possible reasons: a permanent war budget, or to draw destruction upon the US.
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#16
Pvc Manning probably feels safer in prison with drones on the loose looking
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#15
Based on the principles established by the Caroline case and cited at Nuremberg...
Octafish
Feb 2013
#25