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Tierra_y_Libertad

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91. Holding public servants accountable is the responsibility of the people.

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:46 PM

Feb 2013

I'm a Democrat. Have been since 1965. But, that doesn't mean I owe fealty to the party or am obliged to support everything that Democratic politicians do.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795

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I have spent a significant portion of my morning ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 OP

One of the many reasons I spend less and less time on DU. I noticed the same as you..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2013 #1

Or maybe they're genuine Democrats leftstreet Feb 2013 #2

From someone who has watched from afar, this ^^^^. eom ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #3

So, those that are posting in positive threads... Wait Wut Feb 2013 #11

Wow, bypassed corpodem and 3rd way and DLC straight to non-Dem. great white snark Feb 2013 #39

What? Wait Wut Feb 2013 #62

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #17

Third Way Policy invites criticism leftstreet Feb 2013 #45

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #47

Ahh the extremists hit again. Sheepshank Feb 2013 #75

Agree! It's that ILLOGICAL assumption that anyone who isn't 100% O-hater 24/7 is an O-idolator, as.. patrice Feb 2013 #80

This is NOT the 1940s. & Dialectic, in and of itself, is not an evil thing. It's an empty rational patrice Feb 2013 #82

i wish i had that much time to burn datasuspect Feb 2013 #4

I started early ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #18

LOL. Sez the guy with almost 25,000 posts Hekate Feb 2013 #55

9 years of activity datasuspect Feb 2013 #58

I used to do all that, back in the Bush admin when it looked like it made a difference Hekate Feb 2013 #63

A lot of people come to online forums in order to argue Fumesucker Feb 2013 #5

. Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #88

There are some posters that I just don't like Autumn Feb 2013 #6

I use ignore alot Marrah_G Feb 2013 #7

Many simply covet the struggle Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #8

^^^Exactly correct^^^ n/t FSogol Feb 2013 #12

^^^^^Spot on^^^^^ Hekate Feb 2013 #33

I'd add ... JoePhilly Feb 2013 #35

Agree. patrice Feb 2013 #79

if it was all positive, it would be boring Enrique Feb 2013 #9

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #19

okay, I'll bite. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #10

When ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #21

Sure, but mainly because there is little choice in the matter tkmorris Feb 2013 #74

What you discover is that water is wet libtodeath Feb 2013 #13

You weren't around when there was no GDP or Politics 2013 were you? Solly Mack Feb 2013 #14

Meh. As in Mehta-ish HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #15

What does that mean? 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #22

This is a subject more suited to the Meta-discussion forum Fumesucker Feb 2013 #23

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #27

They don't do that any more and they're not called mods either :-) Fumesucker Feb 2013 #31

I would think theKed Feb 2013 #16

Good point. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #26

It's a testament to the Dem party being a big tent party. Although some posters do get condescending JaneyVee Feb 2013 #20

Good point ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #29

I would say that was a wasted morning quinnox Feb 2013 #24

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #32

So it seems to me, as well. MineralMan Feb 2013 #25

i came here to discuss politics. seabeyond Feb 2013 #28

Or maybe it's because true Democratic VALUES are more important to them than DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #30

I'll go with this one ^^^^^^ Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #34

I pretty much see the same thing madokie Feb 2013 #36

There are some posters who will support President Obama regardless of what he does Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #37

yup, very boring, those ones quinnox Feb 2013 #38

Would you also say ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #42

Absolutely. I don't usually click on their posts either. Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #64

I must hate cats Glassunion Feb 2013 #40

People without a pragmatic bone in their body, clinging to absolutist ideologies... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #41

Agreed. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #44

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; ... Fumesucker Feb 2013 #48

Hey, I have not seen you around for weeks! I wanted to thank you. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #43

I think I know the exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #46

I do not tend to do "me too" posts cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #49

Also... What fun is it conversing with someone you agree with? Glassunion Feb 2013 #50

You nailed it. DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #61

I see what you are saying and can only speak for myself. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #51

Good points ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #52

For the millionth time whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #53

"crazy, fascist bullshit." Damn. Just damn. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #56

That's right n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #57

No, it's totally wrong to use that kind of ridiculous language. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #59

Lol! whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #60

Throw me on too, maybe not my exact word choices but the sentiment is close enough TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #86

I am strongly Obama, pro-Dem, but do not spend a lot of time on those threads. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #54

I think those people would identify as 'progressive ' ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #65

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #67

Exactly ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #73

I have noticed a significant number of DUers who ONLY criticize Democrats and Democratic policies kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #66

I've noticed a significant number of Dem politicians acting like GOPers leftstreet Feb 2013 #69

Yeah, cheerleading posts are boring. DireStrike Feb 2013 #68

When ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #70

Repeal of DADT? sibelian Feb 2013 #71

You miss the point ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #77

There is a lot of binary thinking going on, no doubt. DireStrike Feb 2013 #92

Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #93

I like President Obama just fine. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #72

I'm one of those that don't really post on pro-Obama/etc. threads. Cleita Feb 2013 #76

Not all posts supporting PO and/or the Democratic Party are what they are characterized as. patrice Feb 2013 #78

Some of us are simply here/there to keep the Democrats honest. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #81

People do that, keep Democrats honest, in different ways, for example "sacrificing human beings in patrice Feb 2013 #83

I don't disagree with you. I'm not necessarily opposed to the use of drones, either. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #84

I wonder why that is. I don't know enough to try to answer that question. patrice Feb 2013 #87

It seems to me that we're talking about two issues now, drones and the President's decisions. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #90

I don't really post in the political discussions too much... Agschmid Feb 2013 #85

I have an explanation if you care to bend an ear. Bonobo Feb 2013 #89

Holding public servants accountable is the responsibility of the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #91