Next time someone mentions gun rights

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Or it's highly unlikely in that situation you present. I'm talking about your support of and refusal to acknowledge a special law protecting gun companies from liability. You insist on interrogating me on the specifics of hypothetical cases, which isn't the point. Not all--probably not even most--law suits are successful. But plaintiffs typically have a right to have a court entertain the case to see if there are grounds to move forward. They do not, however, against gun companies. Congress has given the gun industry immunity from liability, which is yet another example of the ways that the gun lobby restricts the rights of American citizens. If a law case is frivolous or unfounded, the plaintiff loses; the case is thrown out. You are asking about matters of fact that are typically decided by juries.

The tobacco companies are an appropriate parallel to the gun industry. They sell products that kill people. But everyone knows cigarettes kill. So the tobacco companies are not liable for the simple use of their product. They lost that landmark case to the states only because memos were uncovered showing they had deliberately conspired to make cigarettes more addictive. Despite that large verdict, and others, against them, tobacco remains a lucrative, highly profitable business. The same would be true for gun companies.

The central point here is that you gun people evoke rights as a justification for profligate gun proliferation but could care less about the rights of due process, equal protection, and First Amendment provisions regarding free speech and the right to petition courts. You obviously don't give a damn about anyone's rights but your own. So no one believes your arguments about about rights. When someone stands for rights that only meet their own interests, they don't support rights at all. They merely evoke them as justification. Your position is therefore entirely hypocritical. This thread makes clear that you people have absolutely no commitment to citizens rights. Your only concern is guns.

I don't know what your 32,000 remark is about. If that's a reference to cars, we went through that ages ago. I'm not rehashing old conversations because you have a poor memory and the NRA hasn't fed you any new talking points yet. That also happens to be a smaller number than the people who die by guns every year.