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joshcryer

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104. I remember that.

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 05:03 AM

Feb 2013

Gotta bang out the Two Minutes Hate every now and again. I see it a lot here, hell, even The Magistrate got heat for pointing out the politically obvious. If I lived in the 8th most murderous place in the world I'd be more concerned about the poor kids dying in the streets every day, over American bloodlust, myself. The drone war polls high and unconventional warfare is the future for the United States. Hell, Obama's cutting down the nuclear stockpile for that reason.

Bad thing about it? Unconventional warfare means less dead military men, which in the end means more support by bloodthirsty Americans for it. Objectively, though, Obama is less murderous than Bush II, and possibly even Clinton (Kosovo) and Bush I (post-Desert Storm atrocities), hell, even Regan and President Carter if you consider their meddling in Latin America.

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He was a boy who hadn't seen his father in two years [View all] Catherina Feb 2013 OP

Elsewhere on DU someone's saying Obama is the greatest president of his lifetime. tblue Feb 2013 #1

My country right or wrong Catherina Feb 2013 #9

Well, to be totally fair... Scootaloo Feb 2013 #16

Are We Stupid otohara Feb 2013 #21

Yup. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #61

+1 countmyvote4real Feb 2013 #62

I would have to say Dwight Eisenhower was the best President in my life time. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #73

Fair point. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #58

No. Killed for being in the wrong place at wrong time. TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #41

Here's how you can get back at him Yavin4 Feb 2013 #48

So this kid "should have (had) a far more responsible father,"? ???? Autumn Feb 2013 #2

It makes you wonder what excuse will be used for the collateral damage Catherina Feb 2013 #10

That statement sickens me to the very core of my being. Autumn Feb 2013 #17

Makes me sick. Just a young lad. 840high Feb 2013 #38

Surely collateral damage will be held to an acceptable level for only then could indepat Feb 2013 #35

Well done Catherina Feb 2013 #66

Not delicately worded, but I think he meant the dad, living w/AQ in Yemen, Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #57

The article stated the kid snuck out of the family home to look for his Dad. Autumn Feb 2013 #110

16 is almost grown, esp in tribes. He was no "young child." US says he wasn't the target, Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #111

No, I don't believe he was a target either. Autumn Feb 2013 #116

Not anymore. He knew by that date that his dad had been killed in a drone attack. He was hardly Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #117

If his father had not brought him to Yemen, this would not have happened Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #75

This part in the article says the boy had snuck off to find his Father. Autumn Feb 2013 #76

He snuck out and went to Yemen? Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #77

The Esquire article said he snuck out of the family home to find his Father. Autumn Feb 2013 #80

his father did not bring him to Yemen... mike_c Feb 2013 #81

How warped is that? xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #105

You left out a lot of info. See below... Tx4obama Feb 2013 #3

Of course he can be compared to any young boy who admires his father. Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #5

He was NOT the target of the drone. Tx4obama Feb 2013 #7

Nevertheless, he was. I was responding to your post that he was not your normal 16yo. n/t Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #11

I am confused. Are you saying he deserved it because of his training and his father? rhett o rick Feb 2013 #15

Then why did the Press Secretary make that disgusting comment about his father? tavalon Feb 2013 #22

Possibly because he wasn't aware of all the facts. randome Feb 2013 #45

no, he was collateral damage noiretextatique Feb 2013 #26

So it's okay that he died, since he wasn't the target? proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #31

Doesn't matter - he's dead. 840high Feb 2013 #40

I totally agree with you! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #88

Based on the anonymous word of the people who killed him. Bonobo Feb 2013 #102

And this is why he is less dead today! Riftaxe Feb 2013 #109

Despicable. Off to permanent ignore with you n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #6

I'm sure "Tx4obama" considers that an honor. DinahMoeHum Feb 2013 #68

Thanks for the info. Looks like the OP's Finding Nemo story is a bit off. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #23

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #24

Of course they did, otherwise the OP would make a bit more sense. NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #36

Absolutely sick and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #59

Do you have the link to what you quoted? I didn't see that in the article Autumn Feb 2013 #82

That's a heinous statement. Solly Mack Feb 2013 #4

Heinous. Depraved. Despicable. Chilling. Catherina Feb 2013 #19

+1 countmyvote4real Feb 2013 #63

Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2013 #8

Like a kid gets to choose his parents? Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #12

Sure they do, that little sperm should have seen the danger and swam the other way. Autumn Feb 2013 #14

K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #13

Note his shifty eyes and the "gun" fingers aiming at his friends Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #18

I know :( Catherina Feb 2013 #20

Well said. But before they judge us we few are judging ourselves. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #25

Drone Nation, in more ways than one sadly. n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #44

K&R! countryjake Feb 2013 #27

Nor I Catherina Feb 2013 #43

Are we really advocating for Obama's impeachment here? nt abelenkpe Feb 2013 #28

Sure looks that way. FSogol Feb 2013 #32

"should have (had) a far more responsible father," Smilo Feb 2013 #29

Drones.... ReRe Feb 2013 #83

Why was he in Yemen? baldguy Feb 2013 #30

Yes, he was meeting with folks that knew his dad that were connected with al Qaeda. Tx4obama Feb 2013 #33

Do you have the link to what you quoted in posts #3 and #7 Autumn Feb 2013 #84

So the whole world needs to be out of range of our drones? Catherina Feb 2013 #65

Excellent post. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #101

This happened well before the last election. Why are you up in arms about it now? harmonicon Feb 2013 #34

And two of the Party Faithful Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #37

I have no tolerance left Catherina Feb 2013 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Feb 2013 #70

Where is the culpability for the adults he was with?? He was with known terrorists! hue Feb 2013 #39

Hey, don't let actual facts ruin an emotionally manipulating story designed to portray Yavin4 Feb 2013 #47

Perfectly said. This story unsettles me, but for me, the most important issue is why in hell Number23 Feb 2013 #49

Also, the kid was not targeted. Yavin4 Feb 2013 #50

I know he wasn't targeted. But to be honest, that doesn't make his situation less tragic to me Number23 Feb 2013 #53

i think the dad's terrorist friends probably JI7 Feb 2013 #55

"And why is there no mention of the lack of value for this Child's life" sibelian Feb 2013 #72

Do you have any information on the 13 people that Nidal Malik Hasan Killed? Yavin4 Feb 2013 #46

Do you have any information on the millions the US government has killed? Catherina Feb 2013 #54

no, but if we had done away with the ground war and used drones it would have cut down JI7 Feb 2013 #56

Whose innocents? Only the invading soldiers with lethal weapons from our side? Catherina Feb 2013 #64

You just implied drones kill more people than invading armies. ieoeja Feb 2013 #85

Lol. What a hoot you are. I understand that was complex but that's no excuse Catherina Feb 2013 #87

nice to see there are some others who still remember that JI7 Feb 2013 #96

I remember that. joshcryer Feb 2013 #104

Hundreds? Wrong. Thousands. In Pakistan alone, it is thousands. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #106

I just don't know how we allow this....very very sad... midnight Feb 2013 #51

K&R And it is all being done in our names. nt woo me with science Feb 2013 #52

Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #60

We should have had a more responsible president Oilwellian Feb 2013 #67

K&R me b zola Feb 2013 #69

But... but... but but but the PROS OUTWEIGH THE CONS.... sibelian Feb 2013 #71

I think the Nobel Committee should take that Peace Prize back. white_wolf Feb 2013 #74

in our names.... mike_c Feb 2013 #78

Waiting for the concern trollers in 3...2...1... Taverner Feb 2013 #79

You don't need to be 'concerned' to point out that it was said this kid was collateral damage. randome Feb 2013 #89

We're on the same side Taverner Feb 2013 #93

Got you. randome Feb 2013 #95

Terrorist puppies or regular? nt Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #100

K&R ReRe Feb 2013 #86

It's sad and dark Catherina Feb 2013 #90

Other than Gibbs, who is saying that? randome Feb 2013 #91

thanks for posting -- knr Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #92

First time I've seen his picture. Neoma Feb 2013 #94

"Some of us don't equate terrorists to ordinary Americans." The Link Feb 2013 #97

Message auto-removed SquirrelHill4444 Feb 2013 #98

"should have (had) a far more responsible father" = sick, disgusting. *they* killed him. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #99

Question. Did Anyone on DU have a non-responsible father? Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #103

Damn good question Riftaxe Feb 2013 #108

You should be ashamed Riftaxe Feb 2013 #107

I am Catherina Feb 2013 #112

Sad thing is, as Wikileaks revealed, they went after al-Awlaki because OBL was old news Catherina Feb 2013 #113

Some more details: He was coming home Catherina Feb 2013 #114

CODEPINK with poster of Abdul at Brennan's Senate Hearing on Tuesday Catherina Feb 2013 #115