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starroute

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41. My kids loved that show when they were preschoolers
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jan 2012

The older one had a Dukes of Hazzard lunchbox and a Dukes of Hazzard big wheels. When the younger one was learning to talk, many of his first words were things like "Dukes car" and variations thereof.

So there's no doubt that little kids love it -- and I never saw much likelihood of my own kids picking up racist attitudes from it. The show also had an anti-authoritarian streak that I found healthy.

My main reservation about it would be that it papers over the actual facts of racism in the Deep South. But I think kids learn very early that a lot of the stories aimed at them leave out the more violent and brutal parts of history and current events.

If you're concerned, you can always say to them something like, "You realize this is kind of a fairy tale, don't you, and that cars can't really zoom through the air like that and that a real Boss Hogg would be a whole lot meaner?" And they will say, as my kids used to, "Of course, I know this isn't real."

I'd also add that when I was a kid, I read a lot of children's classics written between, say, 1900 and 1940, that included overt racism and never noticed it. When you're a kid, you just accept certain stereotypes, like jungle savages or wild Indians, as conventional story tropes and don't ever think to relate them to your own experience of people and events -- especially when you're aware that the book is an old one and that people when it was written didn't have the advantage of our present-day knowledge of the world.

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They have the racist, 'slave owners' flag on their car Rex Jan 2012 #1
That's the arguement I give my husband and tells me I'm too uptight that the show did have Justice wanted Jan 2012 #4
Same here...I watched it as a child Rex Jan 2012 #7
"the show did have different cultures on the show and the Duke boys always did show respect." yellowcanine Jan 2012 #99
Do you mean because of the rebel flag on the "general lee"? Or are there other aspects you question? fishwax Jan 2012 #2
all of it. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #6
I don't think it encourages racism so much as promotes a myth of a racism free confederate heritage fishwax Jan 2012 #28
hmm. Thank you for giving me something to think about. interesting. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #32
The "good" sheriff in the neighboring county was a black man. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #33
pretty sure he was SwampG8r Jan 2012 #86
I remember when that show was brand new, first run. MADem Jan 2012 #3
It made being a redneck acceptable izquierdista Jan 2012 #5
It did make rednecks seem cool. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #20
Is it 'not acceptable' to be rural, backwards, and/or less intelligent than the mean? RZM Jan 2012 #47
You can be what you want, but don't tell me you know brain surgery or rocket science. izquierdista Jan 2012 #51
I don't think that's how you really meant it though, is it? RZM Jan 2012 #53
There are smart PhDs and stupid ones. izquierdista Jan 2012 #54
you know many Rednecks support Obama and Bill Clinton considers himself a Redneck JI7 Jan 2012 #69
That he is izquierdista Jan 2012 #71
How could it? There weren't any black people on it! Brickbat Jan 2012 #8
Sure there was! Don't you remember ___________ Rex Jan 2012 #11
Nope. There was one black person in it. Sheriff Little of Chickasaw County! limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #14
Hee, awesome! Brickbat Jan 2012 #18
Isn't the term "Fundie", faith-ist? Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #9
True. Perhaps I'm being racist myself in a sense because I equate Fundie/ conservative with Justice wanted Jan 2012 #12
The thing about Linda Carter makes sense to me considering that she's a Latina... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #44
Wow, that makes me respect her Aerows Jan 2012 #56
Thanks, it is rough when the assumption is the right wing owns my faith. Kurmudgeon Jan 2012 #55
The Confederate Flag on the "General Lee" might raise eyebrows but think Jan 2012 #10
Yes, I know Jones is a Democrat. I remember hearing about this in the past but not all of it Justice wanted Jan 2012 #15
I just noticed his response was to the NAACP considering think Jan 2012 #22
That's okay. It still shows his point of view. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #24
When your husband collects Dukes of Hazzard episodes, it may be for a reason other than racism. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #13
Yes, he thinks of it as reliving his childhood and something fun to watch. He keeps telling me Justice wanted Jan 2012 #19
Actually, I was thinking that he might have been influenced by Daisy Mae. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #25
that too! but in general it was all about the "guys" and the car jumps Justice wanted Jan 2012 #27
I would come into the room every 15 minutes to catch Daisy's scenes Tom Ripley Jan 2012 #59
I have to say I loved that show when I was younger. Mr. Brickbat wasn't allowed to watch it because Brickbat Jan 2012 #16
Wasn't Ernie Hudson in an episode? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17
I'm not sure. My husband also said the same things that NO one in the show was racists even Justice wanted Jan 2012 #21
That's what I seem to remember. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #23
Sorrell Brooke. eom Fawke Em Jan 2012 #34
Thank you. A brilliant Shakespearian trained actor. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #37
Yeah, Hudson was in an episode. PragmaticLiberal Jan 2012 #62
At worst, it could encourage a blind eye to racism muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #26
And from what I remember even though Boss was greedy and did corrupt things for money WHEN Justice wanted Jan 2012 #30
Not racist but sexist. "Crazy Cooter Comin at ya" NightWatcher Jan 2012 #29
Huh? maybe I'm still a little loopy from the meds doctor has me on to fight a cold but I don't get Justice wanted Jan 2012 #31
No - his name came from the saying, Fawke Em Jan 2012 #35
ahhh thanks. Going to have to reseach that one because I never heard of that before. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #36
Poor attempt on my part at humor NightWatcher Jan 2012 #46
Cooter also refers to a species of turtle native to the southeastern US. Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #92
The late 70s was the era of the "New South". Reappropriation of banner and the name General Lee... JVS Jan 2012 #38
I NEVER watched it because as a black woman, I ALWAYS felt it was racist... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #39
So even though you NEVER watched an episode, you felt it was racist? Neue Regel Jan 2012 #64
The thing that PUSHED ME AWAY was the CONFEDERATE FLAG!!! I have problems with it. Sorry if it Ecumenist Jan 2012 #67
what is your problem with the slavs? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #68
Did you read what I wrote? I'm married to a SLAVIC man....Are you alright? Ecumenist Jan 2012 #70
I don't believe The Holocaust equates to the American Civil War. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #75
My people were slaves and the people who were persectued during the Holocaust were Ecumenist Jan 2012 #77
+1 T S Justly Jan 2012 #78
the fact that you think the Jews suffered Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #81
During the HOLOCAUST, stupid.. I grew up with Holocaust survivors and saw their tattoos Ecumenist Jan 2012 #85
Like I said. It gave me a chuckle considering their history. :). nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #88
??????? hobbit709 Jan 2012 #89
Due to the irony. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #90
You're an idiot. Who the hell is minimalising the travails of to oppressed people? Ecumenist Jan 2012 #100
As you said. I guess I am just "an moron." nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #101
Plus 2 JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #94
I can understand... Neue Regel Jan 2012 #80
For some black Americans JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #95
Cooter and The Newt thelordofhell Jan 2012 #40
That brought up this post as well as one of cousins asking me if I'll let her watch the dukes next Justice wanted Jan 2012 #42
My kids loved that show when they were preschoolers starroute Jan 2012 #41
Interesting. Gives me more to think about. thanks. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #43
A dumbass show with a GREAT theme song tularetom Jan 2012 #45
The movie, Moonrunners, upon which "The Dukes of Hazzard" was based, was good. T S Justly Jan 2012 #48
I've never seen a show with the possible exception of The A Team with so many cars flipping over, Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #49
I have fond memories of the show. It was silly, car-crashin, yeehawin' fun. Bucky Jan 2012 #50
Interesting. something to factor into my thoughts as well. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #52
Down South, there are a lot of whites who sport the Stars and Bars just because it reps the South MrScorpio Jan 2012 #57
Yes...against ignorant, irresponsible, foolhardy peckerwoods Tom Ripley Jan 2012 #58
I watched the show when I was a kid, but all I remember are slow motion jumps and ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #61
Relax.... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #63
My main concern is the General Lee and the Confederate Flag. Justice wanted Jan 2012 #65
Yes. Iggo Jan 2012 #66
I never saw it. But if you watched it & grew up non-racist, then I guess answr is "no." nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #72
I actually loved the "Dukes of Hazzard" when I was a kid. I wouldn't worry about it. nt aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #73
Yes. It makes you think white people are stoopit. elehhhhna Jan 2012 #74
I'll tell you exactly which Dukes encouraged racism ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #76
bit of a stretch to call Oklahoma "yankee" fishwax Jan 2012 #82
South will take David Duke if you take Bobby "Duke" Jindahl and throw in Duke Snyder. T S Justly Jan 2012 #84
Last Friday night, a young man leaned over and yelled to me Tsiyu Jan 2012 #79
To me the show was a low brow version of Southern Gothic literature made for a television audience. Nedsdag Jan 2012 #83
Swastikas and confederate flags were much more socially acceptable in the 70s and early 80s WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2012 #87
Don't know about racist guitar man Jan 2012 #91
No no no no NO! Iggo Jan 2012 #98
Ban it Broderick Jan 2012 #93
IMO Mr Dixon Jan 2012 #96
I don't know as I didn't watch it much, but aren't all the 'boobs' white? WI_DEM Jan 2012 #97
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