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PotatoChip

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52. I wouldn't have objected to
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:12 AM
Feb 2013

anything you described in your linked post. Unless the young lady reciting the Lord's Prayer had done it at the teacher's prompting, which doesn't appear to be the case... please correct me if I am wrong. With the exception of the Lord's Prayer, my own public school experience was pretty much the same as yours, I think. We too were tolerant and respectful of other people's faiths. It was just that religion, any religion was not formally taught. For that, there are churches, homeschooling and/or private school options.

Your mentioning of the USSC ruling in that link jogged my memory of some PBS program I had forgotten about regarding the McCollum vs Board of Education case, which is what I think you are referring to. Anyway, my point is that I stand corrected, but I really don't think we disagree on much from what I got out of your linked post.

Yes, there had been some type of religious instruction in public schools up until the ruling. For the record, I agree with the USSC on this, not because religious classes (of any faith) would have offended me, but because I see it as a slippery slope that potentially could have been very costly to taxpayers. Why? Because prior to the USSC ruling, it would have been a valid request IMO, for people of other faiths to insist upon their religion being taught too. Apparently no one had, but that scenario hypothetically could have happened, and legally speaking, I think they probably could (and should) have prevailed -prior to the ruling. Btw, I'm usually not a fan of 'the slippery slope' argument, but I think it truly applies here.

However, despite what fundies like Huckabee say, I don't think the 50+ year old USSC ruling has changed things a whole lot. The ruling just serves to make faith in public schools a more private matter. Students can still pray if they wish, and schools can even accommodate that by arranging for 'a moment of silence' type thing, if that is what parents and students want. As someone downthread pointed out, (and I don't disagree with) God can be anywhere people want him to be.

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I wonder if God finds them as tiresome as we do lunatica Feb 2013 #1
I'm sure she does. nt. MH1 Feb 2013 #13
They are God Botherers, and are arrogant enough to bother him most of all on his day of rest. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #22
I would never presume to 'know' something without any proof one way or the other lunatica Feb 2013 #32
me too. fadedrose Feb 2013 #38
Exactly. cordelia Feb 2013 #46
Somehow I don't think so ashling Feb 2013 #43
How many people suffer from mental illness because of religion and its preachers? libtodeath Feb 2013 #2
"Masacre." Yup--the mark of authenticity proving Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #3
Ah, yes. Spelling. The assid test. nt Still Blue in PDX Feb 2013 #4
Nope. It's a transcription error at most, but Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #23
Because God apparently reserves that for himself ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #5
My Mom was a devout Christian... she read the Bible front to back... ReRe Feb 2013 #11
I understand ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #14
Oh, she was... ReRe Feb 2013 #18
What ever happened to 2naSalit Feb 2013 #6
Not everyone believes that's what the founders meant. Blanks Feb 2013 #24
Indeed the Constitution does not 2naSalit Feb 2013 #30
I see it on Facebook. Blanks Feb 2013 #34
Yeah some folks didn't 2naSalit Feb 2013 #40
I used to work in county planning. Blanks Feb 2013 #44
Huckabuck has sold his soul to the money changers safeinOhio Feb 2013 #7
Huckabuck...nice one, but I prefer $huckabee. Nt pkdu Feb 2013 #20
God was expelled because he didn't have parents to sign him up. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #8
There've been 115 church shootings?!?! skypilot Feb 2013 #9
Disgruntled worshippers. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #10
LOL skypilot Feb 2013 #12
I'm not surprised at all... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #16
Oh my. skypilot Feb 2013 #35
A lot of them are only there to be seen.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #39
I prefer gruntled worshippers. DeadEyeDyck Feb 2013 #42
Proof that Gawd has left the Church... Just sayin' freshwest Feb 2013 #41
That was the figure as of November 20, 2012 Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #50
How did we do that? JoeDuck Feb 2013 #15
He's lying anyway. Students can pray in school. Mariana Feb 2013 #21
They can't understand.... ReRe Feb 2013 #17
As a Christian I am embarassed by these people... YoungDemCA Feb 2013 #19
I agree 100%! hrmjustin Feb 2013 #28
Apparently church shootings are on the rise. Blanks Feb 2013 #25
So if we remove God from churches... KansDem Feb 2013 #26
No more mentally ill if they had prayed in school as kids? HockeyMom Feb 2013 #27
I don't ever remember 'God' *being* in public schools. PotatoChip Feb 2013 #29
I'm older than you. Here's my story of before your time. I think you'll enjoy it: freshwest Feb 2013 #48
I wouldn't have objected to PotatoChip Feb 2013 #52
Nope, the Lord's Prayer wasn't mandated. The teacher said nothing either way. We'd seen the TV news. freshwest Feb 2013 #59
I am trying to picture how mere mortals could move God from anywhere. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #31
I assume that this nitwit means that since open prayer isnt allowed then God cant come in. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #33
We removed common sense from political discourse devine25 Feb 2013 #36
Huckabee's god is an egomaniacal jackass. Initech Feb 2013 #37
Huckabee, upholding the proud tradition DirkGently Feb 2013 #45
You know what's frightening? Timbuk3 Feb 2013 #47
god, protect me from your followers! yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2013 #49
The knuckledraggers are crawling all over themselves to repeat that bit of insanity. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #51
I guess this is a sign that God is not welcome in Church ck4829 Feb 2013 #53
If only GOD stayed in church there would be fewer church shootings. Historic NY Feb 2013 #54
i can never see these, can anyone post the picture? usregimechange Feb 2013 #55
Born atheist (because I think we all are!), raised Catholic and now logosoco Feb 2013 #56
Interesting thread here decayincl Feb 2013 #57
? TalkingDog Feb 2013 #58
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