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Showing Original Post only (View all)Dorner admitted to killings, targeting lesbians for being 'misandrist' and defended Chick Fil-A [View all]
Just to be clear to the "innocent before proven guilty" crowd who pretend not to know Chris Dorner is a murderer and those who pretend that this guy was some whistleblower who got railroaded, please read these excerpts from his bizarre manifesto:
He admits that he committed the crimes he's accused of committing:
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.
He stated his intent to kill the CHILDREN of people he was angry at:
I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, Im terminating yours. -----, -----, -----, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.
He threatens to continue the murders:
-----, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. ----- and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, -----, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. -----. Ill be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.
Two paragraphs later:
The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIRs on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.
Later on:
The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RDs and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Baath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.
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Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don't be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.
He names groups whom he will target, including whites, blacks, Latinos, Asians, and . .. lesbians.
Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.
And he even defends ... Chik Fil-A:
LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That's what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don't be assholes and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.
This man is a killer, and will keep on killing until he's killed. That's all we really know about him. And we do know it.
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Dorner admitted to killings, targeting lesbians for being 'misandrist' and defended Chick Fil-A [View all]
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
OP
He'd best not at any time, under oath or not, if he wants the prosecutor not to bring it up.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#110
I was wavering on Dorner until you mentioned Chick-Fil-A. That's a game changer.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#15
If what the presumed guilty writes abolishes their legal presumption of innocence prior to trial,
Occulus
Feb 2013
#19
Irony is this entire vendetta is because he refutes being found guilty of being a liar
dkf
Feb 2013
#137
presumption of innocence is a legal concept. No one is saying that Dorner shouldn't have
cali
Feb 2013
#25
NONE of which justifies his extrajudicial killing by any LEO. ALL accused in the US are
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#36
Well, let me tell you that the law does not allow for fugitives to claim due process rights
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#55
Yes, which isn't a "blaze of glory" like the other poster was talking about. (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2013
#47
Please use linear arguments. Now just what are you (anonymous person I've never
shcrane71
Feb 2013
#71
Point being, if you don't have any opinion as to whether he killed anyone, logically
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#75
What I believe is that there needs to be a trial in a court of law.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#76
OJ Simpson caused Nicole Brown's death by slashing her throat, but he committed
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#117
Oh, so you don't pay attention to facts unless they've been adjudicated in a court of law?
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#66
I'm saying that we as private citizens are not bound by the rules surrounding
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#74
I'm not convicting him. I am looking at the facts. The presumption of innocence applies
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#85
The law does not require private citizens to abstain from forming a factual belief
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#86
We, so that the system can truly work ,must not rush to judgment.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#121
People who don't know all the facts, and we will not know all till a trial, are.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#124
And I am glad to know my way is seen as right due to 2 great documents.n/t
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#147
You are completely, 100% incorrect re: trials, jurors, and the general public.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#114
Wow. He is sicko. He thinks that murdering will vindicate him. Makes no sense. Filled with hate...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2013
#73
He is the "alleged murderer" because he is innocent until found guilty by a court
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2013
#80
Legally, I agree. But there are people accusing those who state that he did kill those
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#99
Dorner is one of the bad guys in this story. A stone cold killer who needs to got to trial.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#130
But you sure seem to be defending LAPD. Not a critical word toward the cop in my story, not a
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#140
It's definitive only if you're determined to put words in people's mouths.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#145
I put no words in your mouth, nor did you. It was your lack of words, your silence that I find
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#157
I do agree strongly, It just seems so obvious that it goes without saying.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#158
This is a discussion board and not a trial, in case you missed that salient tidbit.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#109
Dorner is mad because he is was found guilty by a court of lying about Evans kicking Gettler.
dkf
Feb 2013
#144
The court found there was not sufficient evidence to overturn the administrative decision.
morningfog
Feb 2013
#164
Yes, yes you're right, the real victim here isn't Monica Quan, it's Chris Dorner.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#134
Characterization. We can read what others write. Upthread you accuse me of putting words in
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#155
And it was that passivity and silence that I found objectionable. Yet you claimed I put words
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#165
Talk about putting words into the mouth of another. When response fails you, you accuse others.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#170
Yes, you say something and then try to grade the responses because they did not
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#171
If you hate this guy and assume he killed them (because of his own admission)
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#136