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LanternWaste

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64. When I do come across one of these posts...

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:32 PM

Feb 2013

What I find frustrating is reading posts that are more full of dogma than a 13th century drum circle celebrating Ghiasuddin Balban or a Klan meeting on Halloween night-- politics uber alles in a sense. Or, in another sense, "Ideology trumps the people."

I can understand a visceral reaction ("I'd kill him myself if I were there...&quot , but some of these posts are going far beyond a mere reaction, and become reactionary dogma in which politics takes the place of religion, and the true believers wish to cast out the infidel moderates.

When I do come across one of these posts, I simply take a deep breath, imagine myself patting them on the head with a "bless your little heart" uttered, and hope to God their problem is simply youth (as I give a lot of latitude to the idiocy of youth as youth has a cure-- albeit one that often takes more time than it should).

If I do suspect it is an adult posting the ideological dogma, all I can do is weep that humanity has lost another mind to the forces of an intractable and righteous political doctrine.

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Last night while tornadoes sruck Miss. & Ala. some Du-ers were arguing for NO aid for victims. [View all] dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 OP

I would repost the links. If people think they can say that SHIT, they can say it to EVERYONE! patrice Feb 2013 #1

Bless their hearts, some people just can't wait to bash on those they love to hate n/t Fumesucker Feb 2013 #2

really dg.. link this stuff annabanana Feb 2013 #3

lookie here DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #82

I've had to correct people on that Aerows Feb 2013 #129

Liberals and Democrats tend to wrap themselves in a comfy blanket The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #4

Of course I want to advocate gov't help for these Americans, but we equally should point out the Rectangle Feb 2013 #47

of course nobody should be denied aid, just because their reps (and the people who voted for niyad Feb 2013 #5

As I recall, 31 Republican Senators voted against Sandy aid, probably including the two from indepat Feb 2013 #6

Ditto. elleng Feb 2013 #15

IIRC, the MS delegation voted for Sandy relief. intheflow Feb 2013 #119

And you would be wrong Aerows Feb 2013 #127

Some DU'rs see life through a prism defined by party. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #7

bingo Marrah_G Feb 2013 #8

+1 n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #10

Welcome to DU.... tammywammy Feb 2013 #9

We got some backwards thinking on this forum davidn3600 Feb 2013 #11

This is NOT who we are! Bake Feb 2013 #12

There are times when I'd love to say exactly what I feel kentauros Feb 2013 #140

A small minority with small minds, small consciences and small hearts Catherina Feb 2013 #13

I doubt it, elleng Feb 2013 #14

Not so sure. Straw Man Feb 2013 #19

Guess so. elleng Feb 2013 #20

Some people treat politics like professional sports. Straw Man Feb 2013 #16

kick Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #17

At the risk of becoming another pariah in your eyes; greiner3 Feb 2013 #18

The problem with the Intertubes is that every stupid asshole has a voice Burma Jones Feb 2013 #21

It is right to point out the hypocracy - but not to oppose aid. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2013 #22

I am going to take another shower--just read some of the comments in the first linked post-- niyad Feb 2013 #23

Kick cordelia Feb 2013 #24

K & R Sissyk Feb 2013 #25

They did it last week during the Georgia tornadoes as well Glitterati Feb 2013 #26

It's like Robertson condemning disaster areas for sins, it feels the same way and is wrong. freshwest Feb 2013 #143

I was not one of the people saying they deserved no aid notadmblnd Feb 2013 #27

Tornado season is just getting cranked up! MuseRider Feb 2013 #28

I think we are all guilty redstatebluegirl Feb 2013 #29

I think you meant "Republicans voted against Federal aid" for victims of Hurricane Sandy, right? Chorophyll Feb 2013 #30

Ah yes. I was in that first--uh--person's sights. He represents DU like the RW represents MS. nolabear Feb 2013 #31

We do Aerows Feb 2013 #130

And I'm a MS and nola transplant to the PNW. Days like today I miss it mightily. Happy Mardi Gras! nolabear Feb 2013 #131

Laissez les bons temps rouler, cher :) Aerows Feb 2013 #132

Probably smart. I hear it's a rainy one. And I am NOT as young as I once was! nolabear Feb 2013 #133

I remember a Mardi Gras Aerows Feb 2013 #135

Pretty disgusted.. Texasgal Feb 2013 #32

It's not just southern bashing--it's state bashing. I live in Arizona and panader0 Feb 2013 #33

I understand that... Texasgal Feb 2013 #34

State bashing, ignorant stereo typing and REAL stupid thinking.. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #35

Elections have consequences jeff47 Feb 2013 #36

Go right ahead. Punish those politicians Glitterati Feb 2013 #37

Would be nice if you bothered to read my post before replying. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #38

I read it. Glitterati Feb 2013 #39

So you just decided to ignore the parts where I said not to deny aid. jeff47 Feb 2013 #42

Your sermons are the problem Glitterati Feb 2013 #44

I'm having severe doubts about your claim to read what I write jeff47 Feb 2013 #53

You are coming through loud and clear Glitterati Feb 2013 #59

Considering you still think I want to deny aid jeff47 Feb 2013 #71

In your own words Glitterati Feb 2013 #72

Because I only wrote one sentence. jeff47 Feb 2013 #118

Amen Aerows Feb 2013 #134

Stand 'em up in front of the House and Senate and throw rotten tomatoes at them. Bake Feb 2013 #41

Even better idea..... Glitterati Feb 2013 #43

I like that! but AFTER the tomato-ing! Bake Feb 2013 #49

Can you clarify Texasgal Feb 2013 #45

You know exactly what he/she meant Glitterati Feb 2013 #48

I assure you I can speak for myself. jeff47 Feb 2013 #51

You might consider that you're speaking on/for DU as well Glitterati Feb 2013 #61

Here, lemme help jeff47 Feb 2013 #69

You made yourself entirely clear Glitterati Feb 2013 #76

That electing evil bastards who would deny such aid to others should have consequences. jeff47 Feb 2013 #50

I am really trying to get this Texasgal Feb 2013 #55

The entire point is I don't have a good idea for consequeces jeff47 Feb 2013 #67

I completely understand your position. Texasgal Feb 2013 #73

Your point is completely invalid Glitterati Feb 2013 #74

So now you don't want to send any disaster aid? jeff47 Feb 2013 #83

Normally, we don't request federal aid Glitterati Feb 2013 #87

The answer to your question is "No, not on stuff like this." Posteritatis Feb 2013 #68

And if you bothered to read what I wrote, you'd find I'm not calling for that. jeff47 Feb 2013 #70

Here's a clue, Jeff Glitterati Feb 2013 #84

Here's a clue for you jeff47 Feb 2013 #86

No it's not Glitterati Feb 2013 #88

Can't even read the title of the thread? jeff47 Feb 2013 #117

If folks in the south have such an abundance of compassion, Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #90

Write and ask Glitterati Feb 2013 #91

Great answer. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #92

You don't deserve any more than you got. Deal with it. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #94

Excellent. Succinct and straight to the heart of the matter. cordelia Feb 2013 #101

I deserve an answer. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #102

You deserve nothing Glitterati Feb 2013 #104

I said great plains AND southwest. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #106

Oh, you mean the Northeast? Glitterati Feb 2013 #107

California! They'll be surprised they've been lumped in Glitterati Feb 2013 #109

That southern "education" of yours has failed you terribly. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #110

Oh honey, I was educated in the midwest Glitterati Feb 2013 #112

Southern Dems do what they can Texasgal Feb 2013 #105

+1000 CokeMachine Feb 2013 #142

If you don't understand that these reps can vote any way they want once they get in office.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #93

These reps campaign on anti-government sentiment. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #97

Yep....just how I thought you would respond....s-squared, d-squared. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #98

You don't know that, you can't know that Glitterati Feb 2013 #99

The problem is those same representatives are screwing over their own state. However, it should be still_one Feb 2013 #115

Is THAT what the senators from AL and MS did? Are you sure? hughee99 Feb 2013 #136

DURec, and prayers for the suffering. bvar22 Feb 2013 #40

may we always hold ourselves to a higher standard than republicans dembotoz Feb 2013 #46

Exactly ripcord Feb 2013 #123

Yeah I completely reject that bs attitude of youre either with us or against us Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #52

That's the beauty of the strong sense of community in southern small towns. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #60

I agree. Texasgal Feb 2013 #62

Unlike most places we KNOW our neighbors Glitterati Feb 2013 #63

I haven't quite figured out why so many supposed "liberals" make such hateful comments.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #54

Irrational AND Stupid! N/T Texasgal Feb 2013 #56

Reflex reaction. People hear the haters from the South and fail to recognize bluestate10 Feb 2013 #95

i would vote against a Democratic Senator/Congress person who votes against Aid JI7 Feb 2013 #57

heres one :/ Go Vols Feb 2013 #141

I think they should get all the aid they need bluestateguy Feb 2013 #58

When I do come across one of these posts... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #64

I find your words comforting and helpful. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #65

I am sorry to see that damage. I personally want help sent right away. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #66

whoever said that are assholes not worthy of the attention they seek. Whisp Feb 2013 #75

Maybe they were just trying to make the point that very red states treestar Feb 2013 #77

it's hard not to take it personally Texasgal Feb 2013 #79

If you and they know there are liberals living in Red States than why don't you and they think.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #96

You see, it's those all knowing, smart northerners who shove that money down here Glitterati Feb 2013 #100

Unfortunately it IS that Texasgal Feb 2013 #103

They are bashing the State itself. treestar Feb 2013 #149

That's NOT their intent, and you should know that. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #150

Says who? treestar Feb 2013 #151

Good-bye and good luck. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #152

They should get their aid, but their legislators should be held up for ridicule. n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #78

As if they won't by us Southern Dems? Texasgal Feb 2013 #80

I mean he should have to stand next to Obama and be publicly dressed-down... Ian David Feb 2013 #81

Don't you mean IF Obama shows up Glitterati Feb 2013 #89

If aid is needed (it is) xmas74 Feb 2013 #85

Didn't we already have one post like this? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #108

Dunno. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #113

I think one scolding is enough. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #116

Get a grip. intheflow Feb 2013 #120

But one can never have too many "blame the victims" posts, right? cordelia Feb 2013 #122

That was last week - Georgia tornadoes Glitterati Feb 2013 #114

Perspective is everything, and disasters have no political affiliation. still_one Feb 2013 #111

In AL, Macon county went for Obama by 87% ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2013 #121

The state requested Fed. aid for tornado disasters in 2011 and 2012. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #124

BOTH Senators from MS Aerows Feb 2013 #125

Maybe we need to put that in a sig line.... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #126

No kidding! Aerows Feb 2013 #128

You don't believe most DUers take that attitude, I assume. MADem Feb 2013 #137

I said " some Du-ers" and "more than one DU member " dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #139

I am just trying to tamp down the "j'accuse" vibe before it has a chance to MADem Feb 2013 #144

The cooking.....ohhhh yeah. Deep fried everything. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #145

Barbecue. Chicken and waffles. Fried okra. A thousand iterations of mac-n-cheese. MADem Feb 2013 #147

+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #138

Think you meant Sandy, not Sandy Hook. hay rick Feb 2013 #146

lol..you are right...I meant Sandy dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #148